"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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people have warned me about this chick

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so ive been seeing this hb9 for about a month, only thing is, she gets totally wasted on many nights and ends up kissing different guys.

i know this is afc, but it does get to me. especially since when she's sobre she'll often text me first and generally show a high interest level, she's said she likes me.

im just not sure what to do about this situation... i feel like if i keep on seeing her then i will begin to like her, which might not be healthy for me.

i told her we should stop seeing each other, because i didnt like seeing her go off with other guys, she cried a bit after this, and said she understood.

anyway, we're still going to see each other, despite that talk, everything seems to have gone back to normal very fast. and she's gonna come round to mine this saturday.


how should i be with her now?

would you kiss this girl again or not?

or hang out as friends or something?

(we werent in a relationship when she kissed those other guys, but i cant help thinking it wouldnt have made a difference to her that night if we were. from what ive heard she'd do it anyway)




randall
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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no offense, are you stupid? i mean i don't know about the rest of the people here but someone who says one thing and does another sends warning bells off for me. Might be cool sleeping with her and ****, till you catch some STD. (STI)
 

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hmm yeah its messed up. we've already slept together a few times. she doesnt have an sti btw.

she just seems to crave attention off other guys when she's drunk, yet when she's sobre she's one of the shyest, most innocent girls you'd meet.
 

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She's got self confidence issues and loves the attention guys give since it makes her feel good. you standing your ground doesn't mean over night she's going to change her colours since her issues are deeper rooted than that.
She sounds like one bag full of headache and not someone you wanna get too emotionally attached to especially not right now anyway, she'll eat you up and spit you out unfortuately.

When she comes over, dont be toon keen, flirt with her take it easy and let her make the first move to kiss etc let her chase you a little. See what happens. If you really like her and plan to stick it out just be ready and prepared for a whole heap of drama in the future.
 

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She is not girlfriend material. If you plan on seeing her I would only use her for sex.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This is a **** buddy only. Been there buddy. Trust me, you can't control her, you can't even mentally/emotionally reach her...everything she shows you is fake. If you try to play her game by making out with other girls...shes just gonna up the ante. Attention is the only game you can play with her. Giving it to her or not... and even then she will always crave more. **** buddy only man. Listen to me.
 

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argh you're probably right... its a fvcking shame tho, seems like a waste.

she's said she wants to be with me, but said she'll end up screwing it up and that she doesnt wanna hurt me

and like... an hour after i said we should stop seeing each other, she texted me saying she really didnt want it to end this way
 

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Well look at it this way.

She already likes to go out and get hammered. Then, goes around making out with random guys? Think what else she could be doing when she is drunk. Or if you were dating her. Think of the unfaithfulness and lack of resprect she is showing you by doing things like that.

Remember, you gotta look pass those proper t!tties and big ol' a$$.
 

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yeah i have been doing tbh, thats why i hang around with her, cos she's got a decent, fun personality. ive always found most girls pretty boring, so when i meet an interesting one like this, it's like i cant really be bothered hanging out with other chicks. its just annoying when theres one thing about her that would make it impossible to work
 

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man, getting serious which this girl is a path for misery.

read my thread on 'never accept less' - it applies to you big guy-

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=133762


you can be a chump if you like, i mean, theres a feel good factor right? looks good infront of your mates?


its a costly path bro, dont go there, you'll be dealing with problems you never thought ud ever have - thats what these type of girls do - they're like a parent having a problem child...really! :D
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I.A.F.Y.B. said:
Think of the unfaithfulness and lack of resprect she is showing you by doing things like that.

its as if she's not in control of herself tho, thats why i havent just cut contact with her. shes apologised as well after kissing other guys, and has said she's a screw up, and she feels bad about it. i mean, she's drunk more nights than not at the minute, and i cant help but think thats why she acts a lot differently when shes drunk. i just wish she'd change
 

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randalll said:
its as if she's not in control of herself tho, thats why i havent just cut contact with her. shes apologised as well after kissing other guys, and has said she's a screw up, and she feels bad about it. i mean, she's drunk more nights than not at the minute, and i cant help but think thats why she acts a lot differently when shes drunk. i just wish she'd change
never happens buddy - and worst u might actually convince yourself she has changed. worse again, she might think she has. but it pretty much always comes back.

did u read my thread? you're making excuses for her already. hmmm.
 

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randalll said:
its as if she's not in control of herself tho, thats why i havent just cut contact with her. shes apologised as well after kissing other guys, and has said she's a screw up, and she feels bad about it. i mean, she's drunk more nights than not at the minute, and i cant help but think thats why she acts a lot differently when shes drunk. i just wish she'd change
The crying and her feeling bad could be true. But, most the time thats her way of manipulating you.

If you want her and she wants you. You should say;

"Look all this partying and kissing other guys is lack of respect for me. I can't be with a girl who does this. So, if you want to be together this has to change or it won;t work out."

See is she is willing to change if you want. But, you can't change them all and like i mentioned about. The crying n her feeling bad mostly is a way to manipulate you.

Also, she knows what she is doing. But, the alcohol is giving her the courage/confidence to do it.
 

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cheers for the posts guys, yeah i did read the thread, and im gonna just play it cool now. not gonna get involved with this girl in the near future.
 
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