"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Mr. Fresh

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ok so what is behind paying for dates. if u aren't yet official with a girl and u are still going out with her, should you pay for her? I don't want to seem like a tool especially if she aint my girl yet, u know what im trying to say? i went out with a girl to the movies and i paid for both of our tickets but say we go out again? should she pay next time?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Grand Wizzard Alamar

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don't let her try to take advantage of you, I'd have her pay for her own ticket or better yet, you let her pay for both of your tickets.
shouldn't let her feed out of your wallet like a street lurker =P not that she is one!
 

girl_in_a_boy_forum

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I think the man should pay for the first date; it's a good gesture and shows you're able to take care of her. After that, the woman should at least offer to pay, and it's your choice whether you want to or not. Now, my bf and I are at the stage where we take turns paying for each other, uness it's something more expensive, and then we pay our own way.

How many dates does it take before you make it "official", by the way?
 

mpimpin

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I've had girls that insist on paying for themselves, and I've had dates where we'd swap paying. Ex. She pays for movies I pay for dinner. As a guy though you should always pay for the first date. Watch out there and make sure she is not a gold digger. When I go out with my current girlfriend I always pay. I have two jobs and pick up some nice cash. She doesn't have a cash flow.I know her well enough having been best friends for years that she isn't just using me. I feel great paying and don't have a problem with it. Of course I keep the expensive dates to special occasions and look for fun but cheap ways to spend time together.
 

Jack-Torrance

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I agree with mpimpin "look for fun but cheap ways to spend time together"

Some of the funnest dates you can have with girls (and maybe most successful) can be at a Crazy Golf course!!! (Pile on the witty comments as she muffs up the ball and - *gulp* hope she isn't a golfing pro and wipes the floor with you [you couldn't say anything witty then could you...])

And remember that dates at places like the movies, coffee shop are

UNORIGINAL (Although they can be successful, I'm not putting them down)

try inviting her to your place aswell, that's pretty much free if you're stingy and don't feed her or give her drinks...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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