"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Past lovers to best friend.. Possible back to lovers?

aznxboi

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Hey fellas,

Alright so this girl she about an 8.. We dated before like a year ago, we went pretty far.. She end up going back to ex, so I did my own thing. We eventually become like best friends. Now her ex and her broke up. I am currently in the friend zone, I am really attracted to her and her friends can see it. Her friends encouraging her to date me, but she see me as a good friend.


I was wondering how can I changed this all around fellas?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Possible. Highly improbable.

Senior Fingers had a good post about this. I think the chance of success depends on just how platonic you were though. If there was that "awkwardness" of people who "should" have been dating, I think your chances may be gone for good without a large frame change (like greater than 6 months of not seeing or talking to eachother + some other life stage changing event).
 

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4 Things you got to know.

1. Don't get all romantic from the jump, it's not going to work when she already classified you as a "friend."

2. IF a woman is STILL interested in getting back with their ex, they will be more forward about it. More tell-tale signs are evident. She'll try to call you up or make excuses to be around you.

3. You must push the right buttons - and gradually do so. Don't come across as desperate as getting back with her, and don't get all poetic or spill your bottle of emotions you still held captive.

4. It's more of a wise thing to do to look elsewhere... you want this girl back for good or what?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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We were never boyfriend and girlfriend. We were basically each other fling. Now, she going through some problem with her ex bf. I am just questioning myself, is there a way I can take advantage of this situation.
 

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Your one and only chance here...

cut off all contact... IMMEDIATELY. I'm assuming you haven't made those plans with regards to the sunset yet. Don't bother... You need to dissapear and have her chase you. If you two were as close as you said you were, she will start wondering where you are and you will get tons of calls, e-mails, texts, etc... from her. Don't reply for at least a week, then start gradually replying... make yourself busy and game other chicks in the meantime.
 

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Not yet, I think I'm going to cancel on her. I don't want to be the one chasing here. All her friends like me, and think I'm the cool lay back kinda guy. They want her her to be with me. Currently she have the mindset that all guys are liars and scums because of her ex.

This girl though, changes her mind faster than she change her underwear. Today is Monday, I am planning not to talk to her until Wednesday night or Friday afternoons.

(The Bad) To sum up everything, She is currently:
1. Have the hate all guys mindset
2. Feel like she got back stab, since she found out her best friend (girl) is talking behind her back.
3. Not ready to trust in any guy any time soon (even me, dating wise)

(The good)
1. She trust me the most out of everybody
2. She feels really comfortable around me, and claims I am a person she can be herself around
3. She said whatever happen, happens. Between us as good friends, I'm not too sure is this a good thing or not.

Overall, we hit it off pretty well in the past as each other 'fling'. I don't want a relationship with this girl, I just want to date her.
 

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I think its very possible. I've done it several times.
 

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donjuanapprentice01 said:
Your one and only chance here...

cut off all contact... IMMEDIATELY. I'm assuming you haven't made those plans with regards to the sunset yet. Don't bother... You need to dissapear and have her chase you. If you two were as close as you said you were, she will start wondering where you are and you will get tons of calls, e-mails, texts, etc... from her. Don't reply for at least a week, then start gradually replying... make yourself busy and game other chicks in the meantime.

EXACTLY. AT LEAST A WEEK. Act semi-disinterested. after a couple of weeks accept an invitation to go drinking with her & those friends. get her buzzed, you act buzzed too. and then kino escalate to f--- close
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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