"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm meeting a woman and have had sex with her a couple of times last week. She is using tests a lot of the time, specially using a guy I know she is not interested in. He is hanging around her all of the time and that pi**es me off.

Yesterday I came to the local disco and there they where dancing. I went out afterwords to talk to the woman and her friend and the guy also stood there. She was showing no interest in me, even if I mirrored her and touched her arm, so I went inside again and started dansing with other girls. I left early this night.

I have decided to not take contact with her again, is that wisely? She texted me today and wondered if I left early from the club. She also texted that I should have danced with them instead of going home early. When I think about it, it would not have been fun to do that with this guy dancing beside and drooling after her. I think about asking her what she is doing and ask if she would like that I had a girl hanging around me all the time, but I think that will not help. It's difficult to know how much interest I shall show in her allthough I know it's that what she wants :(

So what to do guys?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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You basically did the right thing by leaving early. If you don't feel comfortable in a given situation you don't have to be there. Its obvious she wanted two men competing for her attention to boost her ego.

If you had sex with her you should be pleased you got at least that. If for some absurd reason you're thinking LTR remember these little games she plays. Is this a chick you want around long term?

I'd say you should be out meeting more girls that way these little tests of hers mean less. Either that or engage in some manly activities to take your mind off this chick.
 

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I'm meeting a woman and have had sex with her a couple of times last week. She is using tests a lot of the time, specially using a guy I know she is not interested in. He is hanging around her all of the time and that pi**es me off.
See, this is just the women's version of "game". Make him jealous, be hard to get, show social proof, show him you have options, don't act too interested. Personally, I don't care to put up with these BS games. I would find someone who isn't so into playing them. Next.
 

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Thanks for the answers. I don't know about LTR because she has just broke up from a LTR of 13 years. I bet she want's to play around for a while.

I have a Fu**friend I will contact again and see what happens :)
 

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Go to the disco. Dance with chicks. Have fun. period.

You think that dude was the only one drooling over her? Your being a baby b*tch.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Your being a baby b*tch.
No name calling.. it's easy to attack people from the safety of your laptop screen.

See, this is just the women's version of "game". Make him jealous, be hard to get, show social proof, show him you have options, don't act too interested.
This is true. The only problem is when women try to manipulate a guy who is savvier than they, which apparently you are now. Keep in mind that many men don't even recognize when chicks are playing games. Probably most men. So on 90% of guys these games work. Once you spot a game it is no longer effective.
 

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Desire said:
Thanks for the answers. I don't know about LTR because she has just broke up from a LTR of 13 years. I bet she want's to play around for a while.
Until I read that I was going to say that she is a fjortis, and you should expect her to be a stupid slut. She is kind of old to be going to clubs still.
 

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Hehe, she came to me for some tea this evening and we ended up in bed. She is 33 years old sexy blonde, but it's annoying that she uses the tests all the time. I'm not affected by them anymore and it's cool :)
 

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Situation report:

It has now gone a few weeks and things are going better. Lesser testing and more sex. We went to the cinema last week and she had also sent sms to the boy who is interested in her (but she is not interested in him, I think he is in the friend zone :)) and I went up the stairs to find a seat. Then she came running towards med to hinder that the other guy came sitting beside her. I have been acting cool all the time and has never been jealous or anything like that. I think that has raised my value. I'm the commander hehe :)

Last saturday we went out at a club and she came with me home and slept over.

I'm trying to use a few tips in Sex God Method and I think it can develop further.
 

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Desire said:
Then she came running towards med to hinder that the other guy came sitting beside her. I have been acting cool all the time and has never been jealous or anything like that. I think that has raised my value. I'm the commander hehe :)
Unfortunately, you are not "the commander he he .." She is .
She is continuing to play her mindgames. She obviously texted the other guy and invited him to come.
She is playing one of the oldest games that mindless women play, and that game is called," Lets you and him fight over me". It's the triangle game in which she places herself on a pedestal and then manipulates two chumps to compete for her affections. She is either fukking both of you, or offering him some of what you are getting in order to keep him around .

All that you have done lately is achieved and demonstrated a higher level of tolerance for her neurotic need to see you jump though hoops.
Women like this are NOT creating "tests" so much as setting both of you up to fail. She is primarily seeking power and control, not intimacy and mutual enjoyment.
She knows enough about men to exploit our willingness to play this game as she gleefully watches both guys scramble to please her and audition for the 'top spot'.

Women like this are unsuitable for LTR's - pump and dump or FB's only.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I've dated a girl like this, older woman in her mid 30's, still goes to clubs, looks good for her age and loves to play that jealousy mind game. Jophil is right in what he is saying. I won't be surprised if she just ups and one day pulls back hard and gets really distant trying to make you chase after her just as you think everything is great. I've come to the same conclusion as Jophil, they are only worth the fvck.
 

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If you're the commander, why are you going on dates with this girl and her chump? Wouldn't you rather be alone with her? That alone says that she's running the show.
 

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The absolute WORST thing that a guy can do with a woman like this is to develop some"feelings" for her and "confess" them to her in a moment of alcoholic weakness..
 

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I once dated a chick who had a beta-male friend she would invite out with us, apparently just to see me AMOG him. I did without even really trying because he was such a chump, and she would sleep with me afterward, but I didn't enjoy it and I dumped her after a short time because it was just weird to me.
 

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I once dated a chick who had a beta-male friend she would invite out with us, apparently just to see me AMOG him. I did without even really trying because he was such a chump, and she would sleep with me afterward, but I didn't enjoy it and I dumped her after a short time because it was just weird to me.
It must be painful for the poor chump guy. I bet he wants in her pants desperately but of course is stuck in the friendzone. Think she knows how he (probably) feels? I think it's a red flag that she would continue to torment this poor guy, spending time with him and fvcking other guys right in front of him basically.

And I don't even know what could be going through the chump guy's head to put up with this. Probaby "we're just friends, but someday she will realize I am the one" or something along those lines.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Zarky said:
I once dated a chick who had a beta-male friend she would invite out with us, apparently just to see me AMOG him. I did without even really trying because he was such a chump, and she would sleep with me afterward, but I didn't enjoy it and I dumped her after a short time because it was just weird to me.
There's probably another Sosuave-like board with him saying the same thing about you. In the end, you still allowed her to bring some other guy along with her, disrespect much? oh well.
 

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A little bit extra info:

I should point out that I live in a very small town with aprox. 4000 people. I don't think she's doing it with others to be honest. Everybody knows my moves and who I'm sleeping with. Therefore the girls here are a littlebit careful what they do. My former FB knew exactly where I had been when I was visiting this girl.


The other guy has been friends with her and her former man for many years, and his interest has increased after they broke up for about three month ago. He is part of our sosial network and it's natural that he is part of things we do. I have been to parties that he has arranged. It was not only us three at the movies but also another couple from this friend group.

I have kind of placed my feelings on hold and just having fun. We do a lot on our own to, so that is not an issue.
 
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