"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hey guys,

as part of the bootcamp i was approaching a few HBs over the weekends at a club setting. One of them was a HB7 who was looking a bit pissed off or bored (I know, bad idea already, but I was running out of HBs :D )

I walked up to her and said "hey, cheer up!" This worked for me extremely a while back, the bored looking HB would start smiling and we can start a convo. But this one gave me the *****iest fvck off look I've ever seen, and looked away. I shrugged and walked off.

Thinking back now I could have continued and said something but what could I have done or said?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Wow, but anyways if you did it when the girl was bored, I think she would be really receptive of a person to talk to at that minute. On the other hand if I was pissed and random people went up to me and said cheer up, it can provoke a very negative response.

you should've made eye contact and if she was receptive.... go for it. You shouldn't really approach people like that because in the end its not likely that you'll make a lot of progress unless you're really good with manipulating emotions
 

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Maybe she was a shallow *****.. I would've been like "Wow, glad I could cheer you up." or "You'd look a whole lot better if you smiled you know."
 

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My default line is "Wow - are you always that rude to handsome and interesting strangers who go out of their way to compliment you/cheer you up?"

I had a girl tell me to F*** off on New years eve a few years back.

Within 10 minutes, we were making out in the bar.

A few hours later, she was in my motel room.

***** shields are nothing more than **** tests to see what you're made of.

It's how women seperate the DJ's from the AFC's in the shortest amount of time.
 

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Derek Flint said:
My default line is "Wow - are you always that rude to handsome and interesting strangers who go out of their way to compliment you/cheer you up?"

I had a girl tell me to F*** off on New years eve a few years back.

Within 10 minutes, we were making out in the bar.

A few hours later, she was in my motel room.

***** shields are nothing more than **** tests to see what you're made of.

It's how women seperate the DJ's from the AFC's in the shortest amount of time.
And how are you supposed to respond to that test? Act like its no big deal? Tell her you won't put up with any crap?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Derek Flint said:
My default line is "Wow - are you always that rude to handsome and interesting strangers who go out of their way to compliment you/cheer you up?"

I had a girl tell me to F*** off on New years eve a few years back.

Within 10 minutes, we were making out in the bar.

A few hours later, she was in my motel room.

***** shields are nothing more than **** tests to see what you're made of.

It's how women seperate the DJ's from the AFC's in the shortest amount of time.

I've dropped this tip before and I'll drop it again. I've found that for heartless b!tches who try to make my day sh!tty the best reply is to look her square in the eye and with zero emotion or inflection gently whisper in her ear that she is a throwaway dishrag cvnt who desperately needs a guy like me to put her in line.

Works better than any fvckin' C+F, canned bullsh!t. Anyplace. Anytime.
 

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The answer to this question has been answered perfectly in Fash's latest field report.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=100789

There is the link. He started chatting to a girl with a **** block the size of the Great Wall of China but managed to bring it down.
 

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In my country, people are very reserved...no small talk ever. On top of it girls have this mindset 'guys just want to have sex' and that they are somewhat better and they really believe it, lol.
They probably think, they are being slvtty only to talk to a guy in the bar. So B1TCH SHIELDS are on maximum in here. I better talk to Brittish girls.

My best shield trasher is.....
Me: Hi :)
She: ignoring
Me: whispering to ear...If someone say to you hi, it doesnt mean he want to sleep with you ;)
She: laugh
Me: ignoring
She: looking
Me: going there and saying....Hi, here I am. What do you want?
She: Nothing.
Me:I know you do, I can hear what women think.
bla bla bla

Only weapon...
when they ignore you....say something to make you like uninterested in her
when they are cheeky...fire back
when they are rude......secretly pull a tampon from your pocket, drop it, then pick it up and tell her she has lost something.
 

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Good stuff. I was thinking about doing what Karma Sutra said, but I was having a good time and didn't wanna start a fight or anything. You think it would have started a fight? What's the typical reaction you get?

I wanted to say "Hey I just wanted to cheer you up, and since you're such a b1tch, stay unhappy. You deserve it."
 

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TheFlyingMan said:
Good stuff. I was thinking about doing what Karma Sutra said, but I was having a good time and didn't wanna start a fight or anything. You think it would have started a fight? What's the typical reaction you get?

I wanted to say "Hey I just wanted to cheer you up, and since you're such a b1tch, stay unhappy. You deserve it."
I dont have tampons in my pockets :) and I dont give a shyt about some rude cow. You can show you are slightly offended 'It's not very nice of you ya'know' and then bust on her ' I didnt kill your hamster' or 'a little smile wont affect your makeup, babe'
Or simply 'No reason to be mean.'

When you are rude to her too....its only a revenge. If she is not some S&M slave-slvt, telling her something rude wont help.

My principle is....if she is ignoring me or is rude to me I forget her. Sometimes they try to catch my attention later but fvck them. If they dont apologize, Im not interested. Chances are she is just mean b1tch.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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She wasn't inviting any attention. Maybe her dog just died, maybe she just had an abortion, not every woman is going to be in a receptive state of mind.

Aggressive or rude responses to her filthy look won't accomplish much. You have invaded her space without eye contact or any IOIs, don't be surprised if she doesn't smile and unzip your flies.

If it's any kind of shyt test a simple 'suit yourself' will suffice.
 

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Tomatoes said:
He started chatting to a girl with a **** block the size of the Great Wall of China but managed to bring it down.
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

Cheers mate.

There are always ways to break b1tch shields but you have to remember not to take it personally if the b1tch is genuinly p1ssed off! I mean the way I cracked my one was to ask her WHY she was so p1ssed off, and sympathised with her. Then went into c+f, got her smiling, built comfort and took it from there.
 

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Nighthawk said:
She wasn't inviting any attention. Maybe her dog just died, maybe she just had an abortion, not every woman is going to be in a receptive state of mind.
Even if your father die you are not rude to other people...you are just sad. When you are upset you don't go to a bar with miniskirt and makeup. These girls just think nothing good about other people/guys, thats why they are rude. They are frustrated and not a good person worth your time or d1ck.

The thing is...there are HB10 which are not mean or rude and have their shields made of velvet....they give you a polite smile and say 'Im sorry but Id like to be alone, really.' She is good and polite person not some insecure mean b1tch. These girls with manners and attitude are really worth of approaching and dating. Mean b1tch stays mean b1tch even when she is attracted to you because you trashed her shield.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
I've dropped this tip before and I'll drop it again. I've found that for heartless b!tches who try to make my day sh!tty the best reply is to look her square in the eye and with zero emotion or inflection gently whisper in her ear that she is a throwaway dishrag cvnt who desperately needs a guy like me to put her in line.

Works better than any fvckin' C+F, canned bullsh!t. Anyplace. Anytime.
While you're going home with the satisfaction of putting the b**** in her place, I'm going home with her.

Again, most of the time, it's a s*** test to see how you will react.

David D talks about this, and why women do it. It's to weed out the Dj's from the AFC's in a fast, efficient manner.

By losing your cool and insulting her, guess which category you' get put in?
 

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DarkChaos said:
And how are you supposed to respond to that test? Act like its no big deal? Tell her you won't put up with any crap?
No, you don't tell her you won't put up with any crap, you show her with your actions.

And yes, it's no big deal - HB's in clubs will have their shields set on "high" to weed out the afc's.

If you can't handle some 5'5", 110 lb. chick being rude to you, you're done.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Haha I agree if your whole family gets slaughtered you don't show up in fvck me boots and heavy makeup in a club. Guess I should have gamed her some more but that was the first time I encountered such a massive b1tchshield! Live and learn...

Thanks for all the replies, I guess I did right by not letting it affect me at all, I was like WTF for a few seconds, my boys asked me WTF was wrong with her, and after that I was OK again.
 

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Derek Flint said:
While you're going home with the satisfaction of putting the b**** in her place, I'm going home with her.

Again, most of the time, it's a s*** test to see how you will react.

David D talks about this, and why women do it. It's to weed out the Dj's from the AFC's in a fast, efficient manner.

By losing your cool and insulting her, guess which category you' get put in?
What the fvck? Can't you read? Did I say throw a goddamned hissy fit and storm off? Fvck no.
And you going home with a chick I throw away is probably true. I don't get leftovers or another guys throwaways.

And to all these other blind mice who follow Deangelo with abandon. you're fools who have no idea what being a man is about. When the fvck has DD been out in the real world instead of on a stage with a laser pointer and a room full of pimple faced pukes? Fvck that guy. He's a good businessman because fools like you will buy his sh!t.

Happy hunting.
 

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What the fvck? Can't you read? Did I say throw a goddamned hissy fit and storm off? Fvck no.
And you going home with a chick I throw away is probably true. I don't get leftovers or another guys throwaways.

And to all these other blind mice who follow Deangelo with abandon. you're fools who have no idea what being a man is about. When the fvck has DD been out in the real world instead of on a stage with a laser pointer and a room full of pimple faced pukes? Fvck that guy. He's a good businessman because fools like you will buy his sh!t.

Happy hunting.
so you mean it destroys the ***** shield? Not being a smartarse but I think that would burn the bridges instead of lowering her ***** shield.
 

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There is a fine art in determining a woman with a b!tchshield from one who's actually a b!tch. There are a lot of women using this as a filtering technique - and you know what I'm talking about, that suck-a-lemon face, that candor and attitude; it's a practiced art with the latent function of weeding out guys who lack the testosterone to approach her. 9 times out of 10 this is on-full when a woman is in a same sex social environment (i.e. out with the girls) because there's safety in numbers and mutual affirmation that encourages it. Fortunately this is the easiest setting to disarm it. Beware the lone cougar at the club with the b!tch attitude in effect - she probably lives like this and is rarely worth the effort. Your resources would be better applied to more approachable women - there are plenty of beautiful women with good attitudes that warrant more attention than these.

An HB7 is in no position to warrant the energy it would take to get past any b!tch shield. An HB 8.5 to 9.5 might be, but bear in mind that for the first few times try to think of disarming her shield as a kind of psychological challenge. Always weigh the reward against the price in resources it takes to achieve it. Take care not to read to much into it or pat yourself on the back when you are successful. More often than not the woman employing a shield does so because she's got other unresolved issues.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
What the fvck? Can't you read? Did I say throw a goddamned hissy fit and storm off? Fvck no.
And you going home with a chick I throw away is probably true. I don't get leftovers or another guys throwaways.

And to all these other blind mice who follow Deangelo with abandon. you're fools who have no idea what being a man is about. When the fvck has DD been out in the real world instead of on a stage with a laser pointer and a room full of pimple faced pukes? Fvck that guy. He's a good businessman because fools like you will buy his sh!t.

Happy hunting.
I've never bought any David D products, however, my ego isn't so big that I can't see that there is some useful info in them.

If you want to insult women, go ahead. I'm sure that gets you lots of HB's

I'd rather disarm the B**** shield, and then take her home and f*** her.

And I guess all the girls you get are virgins, because you don't take anyone's leftovers, right?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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