"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Overcoming barrier between hate and lust

Jariel

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 17, 2004
Messages
4,413
Reaction score
296
Location
UK
Well, I sure know how to pick em!

I went on a date with a girl at the weekend who happens to be a friend of some friends. We have never got along as we totally piss each other off. I think she's a spoilt b1tch and she thinks I'm arrogant and self righteous, so it's not even playful. However, there is some intense sexual attraction between us and when I asked her out she agreed.

On our date I tried to be nice to her, but she was so defensive and it was impossible to get past her dislike towards me and since then she keeps b1tching about me to our friends and has kept in touch via text messages purely for the sake of arguing with me. Again, I tried to be nice and she turns it against me and accused me of patronizing her. The weird thing, the more she winds me up the more I want her and I'm quite sure she feels the same.

I still have a similar situation with my last girlfriend, who seems to love to hate me, so I'm thinking I'd be best just bailing out. Without trying, I have become the jerk figure that stirs women up, but I really don't know how to use it to my advantage.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

Read more...

padrote

Don Juan
Joined
Feb 16, 2005
Messages
71
Reaction score
0
Age
46
She's probably waiting for you to dominate her. She's acting like a brat and you're supposed to be the father figure.
 

Julian

Banned
Joined
Jul 30, 2003
Messages
4,754
Reaction score
1,216
When all else fails invite her to your place for a movie.
 

ScrewIt

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 11, 2004
Messages
1,769
Reaction score
2
you know what they say! they argue only cause they care.
 

spider_007

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 23, 2005
Messages
3,072
Reaction score
16
Location
ontario
I know what you meen, it's cazy, just lean back and make ur point bluntly and as sarcastic as you can. I'll drive her totaly nuts. Just DO NOT START GOING OUT OF YOUR WAY FOR HER BECAUSE SHE WILL STOP RESPECTING YOU. She may not like you, or what you say, but she will be knocked out by "THE MAN THAT STANDS HIS GROUND"

It makes for a sh!ty relationship, but I hear the Sex it unbolivable.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

Read more...

Climax

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 2, 2004
Messages
2,329
Reaction score
5
lol...

Jariel: I know what u mean man.... What u need to do is just learn where to cut out the "being a jerk" with her, so that sexual attraction WILL be there, but she will not come to dislike you because u over do it. With this girl it seems that u over did it abit... but alas, that does NOT mean that u have come to a dead end.. like padrote said:
She's probably waiting for you to dominate her. She's acting like a brat and you're supposed to be the father figure.
And ScrewIt also had his bit of wisdom to through into the pot;)
What spider_007 said about the sex being good, he is 100% correct, I'm not going to go into the reasoning, just know that he is right about that;)

What you need to do now is see her more, and then at some point, even if she seems to "hate" u or "tune" u, go for the kiss, and make is a passionate one... If the 2 of you don’t end up banging like rabbits by the end of the night, then something is wrong:D Remember, just like u ACT towards her as if u are this jerk, but inside u truly WANT her, she is doing the same, and as u said, she even AGREED that there is sexual attraction between the 2 of you. So make arrangements with her, and make sure u go for that kiss, no matter what she ACTS like, because it IS basically an ACT when behind the "b!tch" she really does want u;)

Good Luck, and keep us posted...


Laterz...
 

spider_007

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 23, 2005
Messages
3,072
Reaction score
16
Location
ontario
Just plant one on her, when she starts arguing about something silly and insegnificant, and then pull away and say: "shut up already"
 
Top