Overabundance

[EyeBRollin]

She talked me into meeting for an hour tonight as well as tomorrow.

Two days in a row? That oughta keep her

 

[bigneil]

Two days in a row? That oughta keep her

I just saw her at her work and got to rub her feet and massage her shoulders for an hour. Kino is great as long as she asks you to touch her.

She's falling for me. She started talking about sex and spent nearly the whole time apologizing for not texting me last week. She's also absolutely desperate to quit stripping. I asked her what it is that scares girls straight eventually and she says certain men will make her want to vomit.

She has the exact look in her eyes that my last girlfriend had the moment she stole my heart. I'll never forget that look.

Photoshoot 2 is tomorrow.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

. She's also absolutely desperate to quit stripping. I asked her what it is that scares girls straight eventually and she says certain men will make her want to vomit.

She has the exact look in her eyes that my last girlfriend had the moment she stole my heart. I'll never forget that look.

Photoshoot 2 is tomorrow.

Sounds like she's after a 'sugar daddy'.

 

[skinnyguy]

This is actually natural when you are a high status guy surrounded by women. In my experience, I just flirt with all of them. Because that's what high value guys do. They bask in the sexual tension and absorb the validation and then move on with their lives. The girls sort themselves out. Eventually one of them will give you a bigger window than the rest. It could be in the form of plausible deniability like "We should get together for dinner sometime." What she really means is get together for romance and sex.

If there was an HB 11 that was my main target, I'd want her to see that HB 8's want me. Why would you throw away abundance to become needy and zero in on one girl? Has that ever worked? Is this your first rodeo? Do you have any experience with abundance?

In a way, this question doesn't resonate with my experience, because it is the abundance with the 8's that makes you less needy with the 9's and up anyway. Abundance creates more effortless abundance. You can't just exist in a vacuum (without the abundance of 8's) and just go all in on the 10. Chances are, you'll be too needy and feel too much pressure because you have no back up chicks, and you'll end up over-valuing the 9 and fvcking up along the way.

In fact, this thread already shows me you over-value the 9. The secret to getting her is to treat her just like how you would treat an 8. Just have fun and spin plates. And don't get needy and over-value a chick even before you've dated her.

I never said this applied to me. Did you get banned earlier for making assumptions? Lol.

It was just a theoretical scenario. Like what should a guy do if you have lots of 8's hitting you up.

 

[skinnyguy]

It's pretty presumptuous for you to assume I got banned for making assumptions.

And of course this is theoretical. I have actual real life experience with 8's, 9,s and 10's, and I just told you it doesn't work that way.

If all the 8's are hitting you up, it's probably for attention and validation unless they give you plausible deniablity (get together but use a context other than sex, like dinner).

If you are not getting THAT window, you are just a tool being used for attention and validation. It means nothing.

And if you actually had 8's giving you open windows left and right, you would DE-VALUE the 9. You'd develop a sense of abundance, and from that, ENTITLEMENT.

That sense of entitlement automatically makes you de-value the 9 and get her at the same time.

But without the abundance from the 8's, it doesn't happen. You don't exist in a vaccum. Your confidence, non-neediness, and outcome independence doesn't come out of thin air.

Makes sense now?

In others words, there is no such thing as OVER-ABUNDANCE. You can't just leave your basement after playing dungeons and dragons and just go for the 9.

And if you HAD abundance, you wouldn't put so much emphasis on the Hb 9 ANYWAY.

Your theoretical scenario never happens in the real world.

a 9 is a 9. If you had a Lexus, wouldn't you want to work toward a Maserati? That's like saying a guy who makes 500K shouldn't further his career.

It's fair that the 8's might only be looking for validation. But let's say you're fvcking 5-6 of them, and you haven't fvcked the HB 9 yet. I would think that too shouldn't get too complacent with the less attactive women, you should always push forward.

I disagree that going for the HB 9 means that you automatically overvalue the 9. Your point makes it seem that every guy who cold approaches a hot girl is a beta chump who pedestalizes women.

 

[skinnyguy]

You see 9's as normal chicks but needed entitlement to get a 10? Seems contradictory to me but whatever.

Your opinion of a 9 is probably drastically different than mine. A lot of guys on here bang average hoes who I would never bang and then claim they are hot sh*t.

For me personally, an 8 is not interchangeable with a 9. But hey that's just me.

 

[skinnyguy]

For me, a 10 is that rare creature that hits you in the right spot (that often causes one-itis or sexual desperation). A 9 to me is the hottest woman but not exactly my type. And YES, there IS a difference between your perfect type and a super hot chick who isn't your type (but you would love to bang). This difference is enough to turn guys into sappy hopeless romantics.

But honesty, I feel like I just wasted 30 minutes of my life. I need to get off this board. I should have known 90% of threads on this forum are from guys with no experience (no offence to you skinnyguy). And then when I post from experiences, guys get offended, or purposely misinterpret me.

Someone said guys who are good with women shouldn't be here and I am starting to think he is right. Thank you skinnyguy. You made me see the light. This thread was the perfect thread to make me realize there is no value in this site for me.

lol good riddance. I realized that you got banned because of your EGO just like Poon King did.

I've dated my share of hot women, but I have never bragged about because only someone with extremely low self esteem would do that. Rather than bragging (which is what losers do), I come on here to chat about different experiences. I know I can do better in terms of game and I usually don't buy into the brag threads.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Someone said guys who are good with women shouldn't be here and I am starting to think he is right. Thank you skinnyguy. You made me see the light. This thread was the perfect thread to make me realize there is no value in this site for me.

No. If they want to offer advice [why else would they be here] it should be more than get really good with women, and you will get really good with women. That kind of 'advice' looks more like an ego trip.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

It's not my fault you are a halfwit and don't understand me. Plenty of people on this site have vouched for me (Although I am not claiming I need it).

You seem to lack the ability to get beyond your own ego, and are on the horns of a dilemma.

1] You are good with women, so why are you here?

2] To give advice to men who are not so good with women?

3] And yet all you say is be like me... and then write screeds of how great you are with women.

Looks like an ego trip.

 

[skinnyguy]

It's not my fault you are a halfwit and don't understand me. Plenty of people on this site have vouched for me (Although I am not claiming I need it).

Wow - you're really showing your immaturity with the personal attacks. I'm now convinced you're a liar who is not good with women at all. I'm probably Leonardo DiCaprio compared to you.

 

[bigneil]

Sounds like she's after a 'sugar daddy'.

Sounds like you 'couldn't afford her'.

 

[bigneil]

She needs a man is what she needs. Each time I meet a younger girl (this one born 1996), they are even more desperate for a man, because the men their age are becoming more and more effeminate.

Today I met a girl born in 1999 at the grocer. A woman my age who works with her immediately ran over and got in line behind me and listened in and commented on what I was talking about and tried to c0ck block me. Why would a woman who works at the grocery store get in line? I love when women my age pretend evil men will corrupt these innocent young women (with gang tattoos on their arms).

She lives with her father. This morning I tried to get her to send a non-selfie and she couldn't because she was alone. My last girl was never, ever alone.

Acceptable Age Differences

Girl Born Will Date Guy Born

1968 1970
1972 1970
1975 1970
1980 1970
1985 1970
1990 1970
1995 1970
1999 1970

 

[bigneil]

Oh, and the c0ckblocking woman my age at the grocery store is actually pretty, and I liked her last year (in my slump) and she would never give me the time of day. She has a man-hating 'As if' attitude.

Remember, in the 2000's we had cougars running around - and women older than me only dated much younger men. Now I'm dating the daughters of these very women who 11 years ago told me I was too old for them (a lot of them are here on SS, like Olly). Payback time.

 

[zekko]

Game playing?

I canceled a second date for a job interview and this was her reaction

Job interview? Your previous post said you didn't feel like driving in traffic. You also implied you are using this cancellation as some sort of method (see below). You also called it "the power of flaking". I'm saying you don't need to pretend to be high value when you are high value. I think this kind of stuff is beneath you, and unnecessary. Whatever. Do what you like.

I just flaked on my date for tonight.

Why? Because since I provide value, it's always a question whether they are even worth it. I don't feel like driving in rush hour to be honest.

This is how you actually have them chasing you - provide value, cancel plans and try to avoid them. They generally won't let you get away if you are providing more value than they are.

 

[Glassguy]

Old Neil doesnt know what he wants, except to gloat and hijack threads lol. A lot of strippers sure "steal his heart" quickly and his stories seem to change.

To flake on a "high interest" woman is just retarded. There is no upside. I have flaked on a couple "medium" interest chicks and even though it raised their curiosity and led to lays, it doesnt really change their "interest" that much.

Neil seems like a person that is self sabotaging, so flaking on what he considers a high interest girl is up his alley. Just a couple weeks ago he wouldnt reschedule for a lunch date for the "girl of his dreams". She dumped him. Not a smart move.

Are we out there to pick up hot women or prove to them we are right all the time?

Very leery of his advice, but then again I wouldnt get financial advise from a hobo.

 

[playa99]

There is such a thing as trying to date to many chicks. The process should go something like the below:

1. Approach as many women as possible, filtering out disinterested women & blatant headcases.
2. Date the high interest chicks, keeping the ones who fit your personal interests around as plates.
3. Either keep them as plates until they expire or enter an exclusive relationship if that's what you want!

It is easy when you have been an AFC & had zero interest from women to want to date any woman who shows you interest. The key is to pursue what you want rather than accepting what's there for the taking!