"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Ouch.. Got turned down.. for like the first time in my life?

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Alright, wow lol. I sorta laugh at the situation. Girl texts, plays games. Says seductive **** hinting at me and her. I thought/knew it was on. Shes comes over at 2 in the MORNING. We talk, hug, part ways.. I go in for the kiss, she moves and laughs and smiles " Dont even think about it!". and thats that. She does have a boyfriend and I do sorta feel bad. But holy ****, I never thought she'd turn me down.

Sorta had to let that out.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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a girl with a boyfriend looking for attention but didn't let you make a move on her. stop the presses!!
 

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oh well, that's the risk you take going after unavailable girls. based on all the other stuff she did, tho, she sounds kinda horish anyway
 

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I'm looking at it in a positive way. I stepped up grabbed my balls and made a move on a girl I've been debating on for a while. I won't even think about talking to her twice anymore, but hey. I tried and I can say I attempted. Which is better than not knowing. More than anything I just wanting what I couldn't have. Which is a problem for a lot of us. I like your quote about doors closing and opening, and how true it is.


Next up? The Abercrombie model I met at the volleyball courts. I need to call her soon.
 

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I give the handling a solid A+. You didn't beat around the bush, you made the move when you though you should, and things didn't work out. That's how it goes sometimes, but the fact that you made the effort in a timely manner is good. A lot of people around here would drag something like this on for months waiting and wondering only to arrive at the same or a similar ending. You on the otherhand have cut through the bs and are now moving on to another project.

That's good time management right there. And since time is all we have, that's the ultimate difference maker. Good show.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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PRMoon said:
I give the handling a solid A+. You didn't beat around the bush, you made the move when you though you should, and things didn't work out. That's how it goes sometimes, but the fact that you made the effort in a timely manner is good. A lot of people around here would drag something like this on for months waiting and wondering only to arrive at the same or a similar ending. You on the otherhand have cut through the bs and are now moving on to another project.

That's good time management right there. And since time is all we have, that's the ultimate difference maker. Good show.
Thank you man.. It's like I got turned down, but at the same time. I feel so damn good I did something. Instead of sitting their debating whether or not I should, I did.. And it didn't turn out in my favor. But it's cool. I feel good, I like that I did it and I can move onto other things now without thinking twice about blah blah.

Thanks again

- She just called and said that shes so sorry she cant do it. But she wishes she could. I said it's cool and bad timing.

NEXT!
 

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who just called?
That girl, saying **** like oh she was sorry but a boyfriend is in the way.. But she kinda wishes she could. No big deal man, it's all said and done. I said it's cool and it's bad timing. I respect that she didnt and I see her better as a person, she always seemed like a good wholesome girl.

Onward to other things shall I say?
 

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THERES A SIGNPOST AHEAD.......YOU HAVE ENTERED THE FRIENDZONE.

YOU set it up wrong from the get go mister........hard to get out of the zone now.
 

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lol as if I care? Unlike some people on here I actually go out to parties and do meet girls. This one has been a off and on thing for awhile. It's done with and I have other options that make better sense.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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bearfan34201 said:
Alright, wow lol. I sorta laugh at the situation. Girl texts, plays games. Says seductive **** hinting at me and her. I thought/knew it was on. Shes comes over at 2 in the MORNING. We talk, hug, part ways.. I go in for the kiss, she moves and laughs and smiles " Dont even think about it!". and thats that. She does have a boyfriend and I do sorta feel bad. But holy ****, I never thought she'd turn me down.
Nobody who learns this stuff doesn't get good without getting turned down. You will learn to not feel bad about it. Wear your "rejections" loud and proud. They are like experience points. I've been rejected hundreds of times. And now I know better what I should do and not do. What to say and what not to say.

Laugh at it and dust your shoulder's off bearfan.

JLance

PS - I hope Rex Grossman trained his @ss off for this year. Bears all the way!!
 

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You are obviously her cuddle b*tch. The guy she likes to talk to because her badboy boyfriend doesn't want to lay there and have pillow talk after he f*cks the **** out of her. So she comes to you get that part of her satisfied while saving sex for her boyfriend who probably treats her like crap.

You need to move on and stop getting used.
 

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speakeasy said:
You are obviously her cuddle b*tch. The guy she likes to talk to because her badboy boyfriend doesn't want to lay there and have pillow talk after he f*cks the **** out of her. So she comes to you get that part of her satisfied while saving sex for her boyfriend who probably treats her like crap.

You need to move on and stop getting used.
Your speaking as if I'm still a guy who doesn't know women. This was one thing I wasn't familiar with. A sweet girl and boyfriend.

I've hung out with girls who have had boyfriends and have cheated on them with me. Did I feel bad? To an extent, yes. But not my fault you know.


And yes, I bet Rex worked his ass off this offseason. I'm really behind him this season, I get a lot of **** for it but I still think the guys going to be a stud.
 

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^^^ I'm not saying you don't know women. Stuff like the above happens to all of us. But from what you say, it sounds like she's just using you for affection and conversation but draws a line at sex.
 

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The guy posted a "NEXT!" already. That means situation over. Why go over his now PAST relationship with this girl? He said he won't be controlled by her and is moving to greener pastures. He's solid with his mindset and actions.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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speakeasy said:
^^^ I'm not saying you don't know women. Stuff like the above happens to all of us. But from what you say, it sounds like she's just using you for affection and conversation but draws a line at sex.
She didn't draw the line at sex. She drew the line at the point right before kissing. Now he doesn't have to stress and wonder the rest of his life, and it seems like he feels a lot better about it. So everyone wins.
 
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