Other Good Looking Guys Get so Little Traction in the Dating Game

[curtsilv]

I occasionally roll out solo going out. When out with friends, I usually don't notice much about other people (except the guys who are looking extremely thirsty and leering at my date). However, when out solo, I have a lot of free time to observe what's going on. One of the things I've consistently noticed is how little 'traction' other good looking guys have out in bars and clubs.

Meaning, their results are very inconsistent and women rarely if ever show overt interest in them. I find it strange that their results are seemingly so difficult to distinguish from that of average looking guys. The true trolls of course are repulsive to women but average looks and above, it gets surprisingly difficult to tell who will get better results on any particular night.

Aside from the mexican girls who fetishize white blonde guys, it almost seems like the average looking guy who approaches a lot can do just as well as the good looking guy in a suit who doesn't approach much. Not exactly a scientific approach but anecdotally, it seems like women in clubs and bars are just fine hanging out with average looking guys as much as good looking guys.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Women in clubs are in "attention seeking - ego pumping mode", the same guy who would get their number and a date after a brief chat at the post office wont even be acknowledged in a club.

In my opinion your success at the club depends among the many things in picking a sensible target usually (not always) girls looking for guys attend the place either alone or with a single friend...big groups have a total different frame.

 

[sangheilios]

Women in clubs are in "attention seeking - ego pumping mode", the same guy who would get their number and a date after a brief chat at the post office wont even be acknowledged in a club.

In my opinion your success at the club depends among the many things in picking a sensible target usually (not always) girls looking for guys attend the place either alone or with a single friend...big groups have a total different frame.

Based on my observations, I think a lot of women go out just to have fun with their girls and dress up to the nines to get validation without any real intention of meeting a guy. I've also noticed that you'll see a group of attractive women, or what appears to be attractive due to all the makeup lol, with guys that are average at best.

Also, as you mentioned I've found that women looking for a guy are almost always there with one friend, as going alone is a bit risky/dangerous. My player friend, who I started going out with on the weekends in the spring, was showing me the ropes and after he mentioned a few of these "tricks" everything became obvious.

 

[curtsilv]

The reason I post this is that according to "looksmaxing theory" looks are the #1 factor in attraction. Therefore, anything and everything improves your appearance should give you a better shot of helping you to date women. Yet, at least in clubs and bars I've been to, it doesn't seem to be a swaying factor.

There are all sorts of possible explanations. Maybe looks are the #1 factor and all of these well dressed guys already have girlfriends and are just out for fun with their friends. Maybe they do exceptionally well in online dating (which wouldn't be obvious in clubs and bars). Perhaps there really is a difference but the difference is small enough that it would only be obvious over the course of months or even years.

It just seems like the most likely scenario is that everyone goes home with the friends they showed up with, and same night pulls are quite rare.

I do know good looking guys who are capable or same night pulls or first night lays. All of them however "date down." Meaning just about every single girl they date is 6 or below.