"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Orlando SSers: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

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Not too long ago there was meet-up of the Orlando Sosuave crew. It was in a kewl cigar lounge suggested by Scrouds and the meet-up went into the night. A photo was taken shortly before I had to leave after "only" three hours. Click here for the picture

From left to right: C-quenced, Scrouds, KarmaSutra (squating), Deep Dish/Rogue, and STR8UP. Notable absence of Rollo Tomassi.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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That's a badass snap Brother!

Let's make our Knights of Kamelot round tables a monthly or bi-monthly event.

It's one of the most beneficial things I have in my life and I appreciate the time we all spend together.

We can make it Maduro's if you guys like?

Thank you for this thread brother. This will hopefully be an open door for other men in the area to come join and expand their konciousness.
 

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Apologies, I had work events to attend that night (I got the text STR8).

I wont miss the next one. MartiniFest is about 6 weeks out BTW.
 

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Is this the same Deep Dish that claims he's checked out by 98% of women? Really, he said that, I'm not joking. With a claim like that I'm surprised he's not walking around with a Brad Pitt mask and a Giant Gonzalez bodysuit.
 

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6-heads lewis said:
Is this the same Deep Dish that claims he's checked out by 98% of women? Really, he said that, I'm not joking. With a claim like that I'm surprised he's not walking around with a Brad Pitt mask and a Giant Gonzalez bodysuit.
That is what I have been told by multiple reliable and trustworthy sources. It's not something I really notice because women are discreet and subtle when they check out men unless they have very high interest and want to take action, and most women have moderate interest or perhaps too shy to let their eyes be caught.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Awesome stuff.

Haha, C-quenced could really get away with rocking an oldschool kind of pimp/gangsta look if he wanted.

Put a bunch of gold rings on his fingers, gold chain around his neck, gel in the hair and sunglasses and he'd be stylin. :crackup:

Too bad I don't have photoshop or I'd make the picture into some kind of KarmaSutra rap album cover. :p
 

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KontrollerX said:
Awesome stuff.

Haha, C-quenced could really get away with rocking an oldschool kind of pimp/gangsta look if he wanted.

Put a bunch of gold rings on his fingers, gold chain around his neck, gel in the hair and sunglasses and he'd be stylin. :crackup:

Too bad I don't have photoshop or I'd make the picture into some kind of KarmaSutra rap album cover. :p
Me and C are working on building a foundation for his castle of self worth.

We would definitely appreciate some outside perspective from a brother or two who "get it".

I'll PM you with current status in a bit Brother KX.

I'm more an old school rock guy. Think Boston or Black Sabbath. I'm sure you could do something along those lines! :)
 

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Dishrogue is more of a covert ops DJ in the way Neil Strauss was. He's not as in your face as KARMA is, but he pulls.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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KarmaSutra said:
Let's make our Knights of Kamelot round tables a monthly or bi-monthly event.
I think bi-monthly would probably be best. I can't wait until the yearly summit to Martini Fest in a few weeks. It's funny observing a truckload of cougars try to hang onto whatever hasn't already gone extinct.
 

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Rogue looks like a guy who can pull IMO. KS has a certain look that some chicks really go for.
 

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,..and the vodka will flow like a mighty river,...
 

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rogue looks like one of my natural buddies, except my buddy isn't as skinny, bald head and all that, and he pulls left and right

Good stuff
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
,..and the vodka will flow like a mighty river,...

And we'll be there to catch the overflow in our giant Crunk-ish goblets! Count me in fo' sho'!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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How is the Orlando bar scene Karma(and the rest of you guys?)? are the women very receptive towards direct game? or do you have to fluff and bull****?
 

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We met at a cigar bar. We spent our evening talking and getting to know each other. Sarging wasn't our goal.

The rock/jazz fusion was good and the women were receptive. Next time perhaps we'll be out as each other's wingmen.

Brother Solomon are you local too?
 

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KarmaSutra said:
We met at a cigar bar. We spent our evening talking and getting to know each other. Sarging wasn't our goal.

The rock/jazz fusion was good and the women were receptive. Next time perhaps we'll be out as each other's wingmen.

Brother Solomon are you local too?
Mr. Karma

No I'm not local @ all, but I love to travel and like to know what the "scene" is in other areas besides my own. That's cool that you guys took the time to get to know each other, I've meet a few SSers in my area as well, some of them were great guys some were eeeh

Solo
 

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Desdinova said:
It's interesting how some of the board's best posters are in Orlando. Perhaps I'll be able to get my ass down there sometime in the near future.
That would be kewl.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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