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Let's make one thing clear.

I don't care if ANY woman judges me, ugly or hot. If I want a quickie, that's what I go for. If I want to go for an hour, that's what I'll do.

Need to get rid of that mindset that says you need to please a woman. She'll be pleased if you are doing what you want to do. They don't think of sex like men do, it's not nearly as superficial to them as it is to us.
Oh wow. You could not be more wrong about that. Women like to have the man get her off and the man who knows how to do that well will have some powerful playing cards. I would not underestimate the importance of getting her off.
 

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You two need to quit putting words in my mouth. Wow Just Wow, LOL.

I have to disrespectfully disagree. If you aren’t giving it to her good in the bedroom then don’t expect her to stick around or be faithful. I know a lot of women in long term relationships that left because the sex wasn’t any good. With that being said you should always enjoy yourself but busting a nut in two seconds flat will hurt you especially with how many options women have these days. You wouldn’t dress like a slob because that’s what you “want” to do and expect to attract beautiful women. At the end of the day, you want to attract the opposite sex and you do that by excelling in all areas of life, including how you sex women. I also enjoy hearing my plate moan in pleasure and reach orgasm.
Who said I don't think you should give it to her good?

Oh wow. You could not be more wrong about that. Women like to have the man get her off and the man who knows how to do that well will have some powerful playing cards. I would not underestimate the importance of getting her off.
Again, who said women are not getting off?

Once AGAIN, it's about the mindset. You're pedestalizing these women and don't even know it. Nobody said to be a slob, that's going from one extreme to the other, don't be that guy.

YOU control the frame. Obviously you reap what you sow. If you're a selfish prick that cares nothing about any women, you probably won't keep many around, unless you are super alpha. Ever notice how super alphas do what they want and still get every woman they want?

You guys have a lot to learn. Learning to get a girl off doesn't really do that much to up attraction honestly, unless you're dealing in the realm of the nympho-freaks, which are a small part of the population.
 

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Hmm, I've been told if women aren't relaxed and really into the intamicy; let alone sex, then they cannot achieve orgasm. Since they do not share this and the guy things they he got her off, he doesn't know. Then slowly she withdraws as she cannot "connect with him sexually" or refuses to have sex. Believe it or not, sex is very important to women. Now, if the woman is a THOT or is constantly part of a train gang, it may not matter. However, with the few women still around which are not THOTs or train gang members, they do need that connection. Thus, the woman needs to feel the connection.
 

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@speed dawg , couldn't agree more.

I fvck exclusively just for my pleasure, if I want it to end within 3 minutes, I'll do it, if I'm super h0rny for her then it's more then 30 mins.

It's the woman's job to seduce me to perform well for her. If she's a lame duck in bed, she's gonna get dismissed within 3 mins. I'll pump and dump.

She has to be within my frame.

If you boys enjoy being in a woman's frame and fvcking her like it's ur fvcking job, more power 2 u.

I know for sure, in a few months time she'll be searching 4 a man like me.

@AJ84 my dear...

Even you would secretly desire such a man.
 
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@speed dawg , couldn't agree more.

I fvck exclusively just for my pleasure, if I want it to end within 3 minutes, I'll do it, if I'm super h0rny for her then it's more then 30 mins.

It's the woman's job to seduce me to perform well for her. If she's a lame duck in bed, she's gonna get dismissed within 3 mins. I'll pump and dump.

She has to be within my frame.

If you boys enjoy being in a woman's frame and fvcking her like it's ur fvcking job, more power 2 u.

I know for sure, in a few months time she'll be searching 4 a man like me.

@AJ84 my dear...

Even you would secretly desire such a man.
My husband is the man I desire because he knows how to give in bed and he gets it back. It’s not about ‘being in his frame’, it’s about acknowledging there is another human being being initiate with him, not a flesh light or blow up sex doll.

A selfish guy in bed is a guy who sucks in bed, sorry for any guy who disagrees but that’s the absolute truth. Women talk about this stuff all the time. To their friends, all the time. If he can get her off good she will do almost anything for him in bed. And any guy can learn to get a girl off by simply not being selfish. It’s not rocket science. Women who give good blow jobs probably didn’t start off giving good blow jobs, but they were open to improving. Being open to learning what gets her off can only benefit a guy.

Oops. That’s the female imperative. Disregard if you are not interested in being good in bed and reaping the benefits of that.
 

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Hmm, I've been told if women aren't relaxed and really into the intamicy; let alone sex, then they cannot achieve orgasm. Since they do not share this and the guy things they he got her off, he doesn't know. Then slowly she withdraws as she cannot "connect with him sexually" or refuses to have sex. Believe it or not, sex is very important to women. Now, if the woman is a THOT or is constantly part of a train gang, it may not matter. However, with the few women still around which are not THOTs or train gang members, they do need that connection. Thus, the woman needs to feel the connection.
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My husband is the man I desire because he knows how to give in bed and he gets it back. It’s not about ‘being in his frame’, it’s about acknowledging there is another human being being initiate with him, not a flesh light or blow up sex doll.

A selfish guy in bed is a guy who sucks in bed, sorry for any guy who disagrees but that’s the absolute truth. Women talk about this stuff all the time. To their friends, all the time. If he can get her off good she will do almost anything for him in bed. And any guy can learn to get a girl off by simply not being selfish. It’s not rocket science. Women who give good blow jobs probably didn’t start off giving good blow jobs, but they were open to improving. Being open to learning what gets her off can only benefit a guy.

Oops. That’s the female imperative. Disregard if you are not interested in being good in bed and reaping the benefits of that.
Very true. However, the truth is, some men just do not know what to do. Most probably do not tell them what they like even if they ask. So, you have two people in a very intimate setting not communicating. If that is the case, then it's the woman's fault because the man is no a mind reader and is not connected to her nervous system. He doesn't know what she likes or what will make her feel good. Women, often times, communicate fine with other women in non-sexual ways, but for men, a lot of times they are mum and just move on to another man. That's the problem. Most men do want to pleasure their woman. It's the woman who's not communicating what she likes or wants. I'd even say that she may not know what she likes or wants. That's the prob. in my opinion.
 

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You two need to quit putting words in my mouth. Wow Just Wow, LOL.


Who said I don't think you should give it to her good?


Again, who said women are not getting off?

Once AGAIN, it's about the mindset. You're pedestalizing these women and don't even know it. Nobody said to be a slob, that's going from one extreme to the other, don't be that guy.

YOU control the frame. Obviously you reap what you sow. If you're a selfish prick that cares nothing about any women, you probably won't keep many around, unless you are super alpha. Ever notice how super alphas do what they want and still get every woman they want?

You guys have a lot to learn. Learning to get a girl off doesn't really do that much to up attraction honestly, unless you're dealing in the realm of the nympho-freaks, which are a small part of the population.
You and saying that stuff lol. You said men need to get out of the mindset that they need to please a woman. That she will be pleased if you are doing what you want to do.

What else does that mean lol?
 

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Very true. However, the truth is, some men just do not know what to do. Most probably do not tell them what they like even if they ask. So, you have two people in a very intimate setting not communicating. If that is the case, then it's the woman's fault because the man is no a mind reader and is not connected to her nervous system. He doesn't know what she likes or what will make her feel good. Women, often times, communicate fine with other women in non-sexual ways, but for men, a lot of times they are mum and just move on to another man. That's the problem. Most men do want to pleasure their woman. It's the woman who's not communicating what she likes or wants. I'd even say that she may not know what she likes or wants. That's the prob. in my opinion.
You’re right. There are women who don’t communicate it and it’s not his fault if he wants to please her but she’s not communicating this with him.
I think some women honestly don’t know how to communicate it and some are b*tchss who think you should just be able to read her mind. Neither is fair on the man though and women should be open to learning how to communicate what they want done to them and how in a way that is not controlling or disrespectful to the man. There are articles online on this topic.

I’m referring to men who don’t care, the ones who don’t care to please her anyway, not the men who actually do want to.
 

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You’re right. There are women who don’t communicate it and it’s not his fault if he wants to please her but she’s not communicating this with him.
I think some women honestly don’t know how to communicate it and some are b*tchss who think you should just be able to read her mind. Neither is fair on the man though and women should be open to learning how to communicate what they want done to them and how in a way that is not controlling or disrespectful to the man. There are articles online on this topic.

I’m referring to men who don’t care, the ones who don’t care to please her anyway, not the men who actually do want to.
Yes, there are men that do not care, but, believe it or not, it's not the majority. Whether men would like to admit it or not, they want their partner to climax. Be it an ego / pride thing, men feel better and more satisfied if their partner climaxed. Now, if it's straight fvcking, not sex or something else, like heat of the moment, that can be a bit difficult. However, if two people are just getting to know each other or are in an LTR (heaven forbid marriage), I've always suggested setting the mood so the woman is relaxed. Men can usually climax pretty easily if they don't choke their chicken 20 times a day. This is where, in my opinion and use, massage and touch come into play. Blindfolds help as well. Shows trust and the mystery/unknowing that women like. Again, this will not work with ONS or just plan fvcking out of the blue, but with very minimal planning on the man's part, this can pay off in dividends. For most women, I believe, it's the connection. Women, generally, do not want to be seen as just a fvck toy (though, some do). Taking a few minutes to massage with some essential oils and a blindfold pays dividends. Prob. a better investment of 10.00 bucks than taking her to a fancy dinner.
 

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My husband is the man I desire because he knows how to give in bed and he gets it back. It’s not about ‘being in his frame’, it’s about acknowledging there is another human being being initiate with him, not a flesh light or blow up sex doll.

A selfish guy in bed is a guy who sucks in bed, sorry for any guy who disagrees but that’s the absolute truth. Women talk about this stuff all the time. To their friends, all the time. If he can get her off good she will do almost anything for him in bed. And any guy can learn to get a girl off by simply not being selfish. It’s not rocket science. Women who give good blow jobs probably didn’t start off giving good blow jobs, but they were open to improving. Being open to learning what gets her off can only benefit a guy.

Oops. That’s the female imperative. Disregard if you are not interested in being good in bed and reaping the benefits of that.
Any reason for being defensive of hubby?

I'm sure he's being a good little boy 2 you s€xually. How can he not?

He's already married you, a single mommy and he's helping raise 3 young daughters that's not his.

Now he's fulfilling you s€xually by being unselfish which actually means he's putting you 1st before him....he's catering to ur needs. The total beta provider.

Now isn't that a catch ?

@AJ84 ....my dear.

It looks like a catch now but you will inevitably despise him for it. You'll still desire the man I mentioned in the above post. You can't help it, u r biologically hardwired that way.

Why do you think a recently married woman is on a forum for men ?

Careful, I did mentioned, that I'm not only knowledgeable but I'm also skillful..
 

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Any reason for being defensive of hubby?

I'm sure he's being a good little boy 2 you s€xually. How can he not?

He's already married you, a single mommy and he's helping raise 3 young daughters that's not his.

Now he's fulfilling you s€xually by being unselfish which actually means he's putting you 1st before him....he's catering to ur needs. The total beta provider.

Now isn't that a catch ?

@AJ84 ....my dear.

It looks like a catch now but you will inevitably despise him for it. You'll still desire the man I mentioned in the above post. You can't help it, u r biologically hardwired that way.

Why do you think a recently married woman is on a forum for men ?

Careful, I did mentioned, that I'm not only knowledgeable but I'm also skillful..
Knowledgeable? I have one child, not three and her father is helping raise her. We actually have an amicable situation which I have discussed more than once on this forum.

If you’re going to troll, little man, at least get your facts straight.

But believe what you want to believe about me and my personal life.

It’s nothing to me. You’re just some dude in some part of the world, a million miles removed from mine.
 

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Knowledgeable? I have one child, not three and her father is helping raise her. We actually have an amicable situation which I have discussed more than once on this forum.

If you’re going to troll, little man, at least get your facts straight.

But believe what you want to believe about me and my personal life.

It’s nothing to me. You’re just some dude in some part of the world, a million miles removed from mine.
You got me there.

It's 2 not 3. The Ex is now out of the equation.

And I don't believe, I know.

That's why u r trolling SS. You've deeply unhappy and don't understand why. You need to make sense of it all by coming here, placing ur narratives in threads just to reinforce/reassure ur current "happiness".

But it doesn't help does it AJ.

This bothers you because u r a million miles away from ur "natural" reality. Right now u r in a "fantasy" reality. A fantasy that deep down doesn't suit you.

The sooner you come to terms with it the better.
 
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Bunch of women trying to tell us how to have sex for sone reason. Probably the worst people to talk on the subject. Yet it's became a cliche of our times that every gender-non-binary with webbed feet, every fat slob feminists, etc etc are going to tell straight men how to have good sex. LOL

First off, out if whom i've been with, i'd say that about 70-80% of women aren't too good in bed themselves.

Secondly lesbian relationships are some of the deadest sexual relation types going. Hence the popular term "lesbian bed death".

I think you lot need to calm down on giving us your "expertise", let's put it that way lol.

Hmm, I've been told if women aren't relaxed and really into the intamicy; let alone sex, then they cannot achieve orgasm. Since they do not share this and the guy things they he got her off, he doesn't know. Then slowly she withdraws as she cannot "connect with him sexually" or refuses to have sex. Believe it or not, sex is very important to women. Now, if the woman is a THOT or is constantly part of a train gang, it may not matter. However, with the few women still around which are not THOTs or train gang members, they do need that connection. Thus, the woman needs to feel the connection.
You were told wrong.

You diverted this by making the cliched quality woman nonsense circular argument.

only the thots get off sexually. The quality girls need a commitment first.

No they don't either - confirmed. Suppose that makes them a thot.

And round we go in hypothetical nonsense.

You’re right. There are women who don’t communicate it and it’s not his fault if he wants to please her but she’s not communicating this with him.
I think some women honestly don’t know how to communicate it and some are b*tchss who think you should just be able to read her mind. Neither is fair on the man though and women should be open to learning how to communicate what they want done to them and how in a way that is not controlling or disrespectful to the man. There are articles online on this topic.

I’m referring to men who don’t care, the ones who don’t care to please her anyway, not the men who actually do want to.
You seriously think in 2018 that we need any more literature for how men should please women? Aren't we at saturation point for goodness sakes.
 

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Bunch of women trying to tell us how to have sex for sone reason. Probably the worst people to talk on the subject. Yet it's became a cliche of our times that every gender-non-binary with webbed feet, every fat slob feminists, etc etc are going to tell straight men how to have good sex. LOL

First off, out if whom i've been with, i'd say that about 70-80% of women aren't too good in bed themselves.

Secondly lesbian relationships are some of the deadest sexual relation types going. Hence the popular term "lesbian bed death".

I think you lot need to calm down on giving us your "expertise", let's put it that way lol.



You were told wrong.

You diverted this by making the cliched quality woman nonsense circular argument.

only the thots get off sexually. The quality girls need a commitment first.

No they don't either - confirmed. Suppose that makes them a thot.

And round we go in hypothetical nonsense.



You seriously think in 2018 that we need any more literature for how men should please women? Aren't we at saturation point for goodness sakes.
So, if a woman said to you that she doesn’t care if you get off she will do her thing as her getting off should please you that’s ok? Because that’s what my posts are referring to Rando. The member who posted that, just switch the genders.

And some women are like that aren’t they? Some women think that just because they’re hot they can just lie there like a dead starfish. Selfish lovers, male or female, suck in bed. Full period stop. I’m not referring to men who can’t I’m referring to men who won’t because they don’t care. And some women are like that for sure.

So, to reiterate here, I’m not referring to guys who don’t get her off because he doesn’t know how, usually because she’s not communicating how. I’m taking about selfish guys who don’t care. Big difference.
 
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So, if a woman said to you that she doesn’t care if you get off she will do her thing as her getting off should please you that’s ok? Because that’s what my posts are referring to Rando. The member who posted that, just switch the genders.

And some women are like that aren’t they? Some women think that just because they’re hot they can just lie there like a dead starfish. Selfish lovers, male or female, suck in bed. Full period stop. I’m not referring to men who can’t I’m referring to men who won’t because they don’t care. And some women are like that for sure.

So, to reiterate here, I’m not referring to guys who don’t get her off because he doesn’t know how, usually because she’s not communicating how. I’m taking about selfish guys who don’t care. Big difference.
You're taking it too serious.

Most guys come here after all this "nice guy" stuff, and they go to the other end of the spectrum to experiment.

All that creates is balance. You"d be surprised.

But you might be visualising it differently to what is actually happening inset. As it being abusive or something.
 

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You're taking it too serious.

Most guys come here after all this "nice guy" stuff, and they go to the other end of the spectrum to experiment.

All that creates is balance. You"d be surprised.

But you might be visualising it differently to what is actually happening inset. As it being abusive or something.

I’m not seeing it as abusive. I’m seeing it as selfish. Selfish isn’t always abusive. A member posted the following:

“I don't care if ANY woman judges me, ugly or hot. If I want a quickie, that's what I go for. If I want to go for an hour, that's what I'll do.

Need to get rid of that mindset that says you need to please a woman. She'll be pleased if you are doing what you want to do. They don't think of sex like men do, it's not nearly as superficial to them as it is to us.”

I commented that he could not be more wrong, and a couple of guys got real serious about that. Kind of a head scratcher to me that anyone would defend actually sucking in bed because they think it’s the female agenda, while half the site is about how to tap into the female mind in order to have success with women. Yes sex is less superficial for many women, all the more reason to f**k her good, I would think, if you want to increase the chances of her wanting you and being motivated to earn your affection.

It’s not abusive at all, it’s just dumb logic. Well it’s not even logic. It’s like biting off your nose to spite your face.

It’s like me saying I’m going to gain 400 lbs because being thin is feeding into the male agenda.

It’s a little bit funny, actually.
 

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The ironic thing here is that there are PLENTY of guys on this board that are CERTAIN that if a woman finds you great in bed she's going to be back, no question.

Now we've got guys on this thread who are saying "who gives a $hit about her pleasure, I'm going to get mine and not worry about her"

Truth is, if you are a selfish lover, the other person won't stick around long - unless they are damaged goods, and then you have other fun issues to deal with
 

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It is the female agenda to give this endless drivel about needing more connection before sex - as a way of leveraging their sex as a bargaining tool to those stupid and inexperienced enough to fall for the con job.

And that's what you'll end up with: the frigid "quality woman" whom getting passion out of her is like blood from a stone. Sexless marriage, general early old age, taking up gardening as a hobby, and other such horryfying things.

I feel there is some narrowmindidness between the women on the subject of relationships, as in there's only one possible kind of chemistry between people (at least that's acceptable to them).

I was in a relationship where i was completely dominant and she was the sub. The things i read in this thread did not apply to that dynamic at all.

And my most recent was slightly more romantic than that, but you can bet i brought some of the best things over from each, and once again i don't see things relating to that dynamic either.

It's about the individual chemistry between two people at the end of the day.

Being a completely selfish lover for a time teaches you an awful lot of positives from which you can take going forward, and i thoroughly recommend it.
 

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The ironic thing here is that there are PLENTY of guys on this board that are CERTAIN that if a woman finds you great in bed she's going to be back, no question.

Now we've got guys on this thread who are saying "who gives a $hit about her pleasure, I'm going to get mine and not worry about her"

Truth is, if you are a selfish lover, the other person won't stick around long - unless they are damaged goods, and then you have other fun issues to deal with
Or she’s just there for financial resources and is faking affection anyway.

Like I said there are women who are not communicating what they want in bed and it’s not the guy’s fault when that happens. She needs to learn to express it in a nice way of course, not, “You’re doing it wrong”. And if she’s doing something that isn’t working for him he should be able to tell her that in a nice way as well. And if either get all snippy about it despite how nice the other was trying to be about it, then that’s their issue not the other person’s.

I think half the road to good sex is communication and willingness to try things.

But selfish lovers, male or female, tend to be selfish is other areas too and don’t make good boyfriends and girlfriends in the long run.
 
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