"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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OR - Feeling blown out of the water by AMOG.

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Well, I suppose that's how I feel, whether there is a rational basis to it or not.
Cant say I blame myself with the lot of experiences I've had in the past.

It goes like this, I've been visiting this new church, and appeared to have peripherially noticed a few hb girls (attraction power 3s - no limerance - trying to guard against that from forming). Then there is this AMOG that I noticed they are approaching and talking to enthusiastically.

So, I decided to talk to the competition. Find out about him. Well, didn't learn much other than he has been in the group for 2 months (compared to me who just joined). He's independent so he's not accountable to mom and dad.

I haven't informally talked with the targets because I just feel blown away when I see the level of enthusiasm and energy they are giving to the AMOG that I feel any lame attempts to start any convo or anything with them will just go nowhere and I don't feel like doing anything rather than withdrawing from those select targets and just dealing with people I feel comfortable with that are not part of any psycho-dramatic element.

I don't know what to make of this situation or how this should go. I was thinking of continuing the strategy of simply mingling and volleying with people that I do not perceive are a threat but keeping an eye out for these other people. For example, does the AMOG leave the church with any of these hb girls? How close is the AMOG to the targets? Maybe hang around all of them rather than withdrawing, maybe I may learn a thing or two in the process.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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DonJuan11

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Your post didn't get through. Can you please post it a few more times?
 
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Probably a good idea just to focus on positive goals. Worrying about this and forgetting to return the calls of two ladies who left a message on my answering machine. What the heck is wrong with me? Should be on top and in touch with people who I'm already dealing with and who are showing some sort of interest in me rather than engaging in these negative inferiority complex meditations. Bad utliization of time and mental energies, very inefficient.
 

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Then there is this AMOG that I noticed they are approaching and talking to enthusiastically.

So, I decided to talk to the competition. Find out about him. Well, didn't learn much other than he has been in the group for 2 months (compared to me who just joined). He's independent so he's not accountable to mom and dad.



Notice that all of us have been telling you to move out of your parent's place for a long time? Then you see a guy who has done that getting approached by women. You can look forward to the same thing after you move out and become independent. You just have to want it badly enough.

But good for you for checking out a new church. Keep at it. Every church has several women who would want you, Luke. Hell, every gathering of more than a few people would probably have a girl you could game, but you got to get some game first. Make it a priority.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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everywomanshero

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Luke man, you got the F out the house. Props. However, you're seeing things as You versus Him. What if he's actually a cool guy. What if he helped introduce you to other members and such. I don't know the whole story, maybe I am missing some information, but what you view as an obstacle I see as a possible resource.
 

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Don't look at him as competition. He's not looking at you as competition. Thats why hes the AMOG.
 

SinJester

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Befriend him, you might learnt something. You don't need to be the AMOG to pick up. I know it's definately different because I'm in high school but I'm pretty much in a group of alphas so I've got about 3 guys more alpha than me, well maybe 2, maybe 1, dependsing how you look at it. Anyway, I pick up way more than any of them. Not being the AMOG (I don't really buy into that too much anyway) allows you to slip under their guard with kino and such.

In any case you shouldn't be worrying about these girls too much. I completely agree with Bonafide.
 
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