"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Opposite sex friendship, a curse or blessing?

solo1

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A) Oddly I've come to realize that when you LJBF a girl, they either want to cut contact with you or be less available (be an acquantance). in this situation, you barely compliment her...and to top it off you bust on her and make fun of her. You are concerned about her as a friend, nothing more. However you cant say the same that she cares at all....Either she wants you more than a friend or not at all...if she sees you dont want her more than a friend she couldnt give a rats ass about you.
If you somehow manage to stay close friends, sh!t tests and b!tch fits are bound to come your way.

B) When a girl LJBF you, they will constantly contact you and possibly even get you to meet up with her often as an ego booster. Of course in this situation I can imagine she has the power because you compliment her quite often and she knows you like her. you are concerned about her well-being because you want to get into her pants. And she's concerned about watching over you because you are a panzy who cant make decisions.

As we all know women are unreliable creatures as there's no such thing as honor/loyalty among them.

Rarely have i seen or been in situations where it's the middle ground. As i somehow still struggle with A. What do you guys have to say about this (and about your friendship with the opposite sex?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm going through that with a girl for whom I have oneitis. We flit a tiny bit, lots of neg hits, and at the end of the day I feel like if I disappeared she probably wouldn't notice for a few months if at all.
 

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solo1 said:
A) Oddly I've come to realize that when you LJBF a girl, they either want to cut contact with you or be less available (be an acquantance). in this situation, you barely compliment her...and to top it off you bust on her and make fun of her. You are concerned about her as a friend, nothing more. However you cant say the same that she cares at all....Either she wants you more than a friend or not at all...if she sees you dont want her more than a friend she couldnt give a rats ass about you.
If you somehow manage to stay close friends, sh!t tests and b!tch fits are bound to come your way.

B) When a girl LJBF you, they will constantly contact you and possibly even get you to meet up with her often as an ego booster. Of course in this situation I can imagine she has the power because you compliment her quite often and she knows you like her. you are concerned about her well-being because you want to get into her pants. And she's concerned about watching over you because you are a panzy who cant make decisions.

As we all know women are unreliable creatures as there's no such thing as honor/loyalty among them.

Rarely have i seen or been in situations where it's the middle ground. As i somehow still struggle with A. What do you guys have to say about this (and about your friendship with the opposite sex?

I have never gone from dating a girl to being friends. My only serious gf she LJBFed me (ie broke up with me), then wanted to be friends. I said NO! Then I didn't talk to her for a while. We tried being friends a few times, but she had given up on me by then (since I always treated her like sh!t). It was just ugly.

I sent her an email a few weeks ago, she has not responded. (I was way too polite for her lie-filled email, I think).

I am about to find out more about column A. I am about to LJBF two pretty girls. One is too intense, I can't take dating her right now. The other I'm just not attracted to, even though she's good looking.

So, I'll know ALL ABOUT this soon enough.

How do you LJBF a girl you've gone on like two dates with? That sounds absurd, but seriously, I just want to be their friend! "I'm really glad we're becoming friends?"

I would like for there to be no mistake about my intentions. The hard part is that my ego is secretly enjoying that they like me. Being an arrogant, cloud-gazing buffoon sure does come easy to me.

That's my experience.
 

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i've always showed it with no touching...no touching...hug at the end of the night. if she brings anything up about a relationship, tell her you can see her as a good friend. it's up to her whether or not she wants to pursue that or not...never failed for me yet...and i'm glad i'm their friend rather then anything else.
 

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You guys need to differentiate between friends and acquintances(sp?). I have a whole armade of female acquintances, but no female friends. The diffence between a female friend and a female acquitances is with the former you are nothing but her enuch lapdog that she can use as an emotional tampong, while with the latter she doesn't know where she has you and that you have a potential lay.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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specialed said:
i've always showed it with no touching...no touching...hug at the end of the night. if she brings anything up about a relationship, tell her you can see her as a good friend. it's up to her whether or not she wants to pursue that or not...never failed for me yet...and i'm glad i'm their friend rather then anything else.
Good post, thanks.
 

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Centaurion said:
You guys need to differentiate between friends and acquintances(sp?). I have a whole armade of female acquintances, but no female friends. The diffence between a female friend and a female acquitances is with the former you are nothing but her enuch lapdog that she can use as an emotional tampong, while with the latter she doesn't know where she has you and that you have a potential lay.
I disagree. In either situation friend or acquantance, there exists the opportunity for a lay. However it may be easier to transition into the lay phase from acquantance because there still holds mystery between you 2.

In the former, the sexual tension has been there either for both parties or one party, so it may be harder to transition to a lay or it can happen easily. And the consequence is destroying the friendship, or the reward is turning it into a kick ass relationship.

But some women have difficulty being friends with a guy if she realizes the reality that he doesnt like her, either they wind up resenting the guy or lose interest 100%. The ones that do stick around are the hopeless romantics, the girl AFC.
 

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If the girl just isnt interested in anything more than a friend, then accept it.

be her friend while you go bang other girls
 
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