"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Operation: Get Rejected

Sofomore

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Are you guys ready for the challenge that MOTU set up but never made the rules for? I just moved to a new city and I am ready to get fvcking rejected! Nothing gets my confidence flowing like a mission to fail on purpose!

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http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=172604

The Operation: Get rejected 10 times in one day.

Simple as that.

I am going to do this on this Thursday, August 30th. Who is with me?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I agree that this sort of challenge decreases your approach anxiety. But why not just try and go for the gold, and if you get rejected, just not give a Fvck? I mean, that's the whole point of the challenge anyway right? Not giving a sh!t?

-Scars
 

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im gonna try it. theres an old samurai saying that goes like "go into battle prepared to die and you will survive. go into battle hoping to live and you will surely die." lets see what happens.
 

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I do think to help deal with the anxiety, guys shouldnt see not getting the girl as rejection, its more a case of striking out, thats all, you take a swing and miss, then now and again you connect, make more a game of it and the ego doesnt get so battered
 

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I have found myself getting AA recently and think this challenge is a great way for me to learn how not to give a fvck about how the interaction goes. Right now I care a little too much about how it ends up...enough to the point where I won't approach.

This is just for people that want to see results fast and boost confidence in a matter of one day.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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This is a good idea, and you should apply it to girls who give your their number and then flake too. TRY to get rejected and HOPE they flake. And when you get them back to your place, TRY to scare them off by being aggressive.
 

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Scars said:
I agree that this sort of challenge decreases your approach anxiety. But why not just try and go for the gold, and if you get rejected, just not give a Fvck? I mean, that's the whole point of the challenge anyway right? Not giving a sh!t?

-Scars
Because the whole point is to shock your system into not giving a **** about rejection, and if you're going out while still being scared of rejection, trying to get the "successful approach" and trying NOT to "get rejected", then you're not shocking the system. It's like the difference between doing a cannonball into the water vs walking into the pool.
 

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Having no outcome while talking to women is the best way to go. Releases all that pressure you put on yourself (i.e - oh i have to get her number, I have to bang her, blah blah blah).

Just go meet someone new and that should be enough of an outcome.
 

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Scars said:
I agree that this sort of challenge decreases your approach anxiety. But why not just try and go for the gold, and if you get rejected, just not give a Fvck? I mean, that's the whole point of the challenge anyway right? Not giving a sh!t?

-Scars
I basically agree with you, Scars, but I think it's more the way the challenge is presented. It gives off a "try to get rejected" vibe and I don't find that very helpful.

I think it's better to say "approach women until you get to 10 rejections". This way, you aren't necessarily trying to get rejected, but you will still have a "don't give a sh!t" mentality since you are working until you get those rejections.

Unless your game is brutal (or your face is brutal), approaching until 10 rejections is going to get you multiple numbers. But I think "trying to get rejected" will yield fewer results. You may subconsciously miss a positive sign because that isn't the goal.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Sofomore said:
I just moved to a new city and I am ready to get fvcking rejected! Nothing gets my confidence flowing like a mission to fail on purpose!

The Operation: Get rejected 10 times in one day.

Simple as that.

I am going to do this on this Thursday, August 30th. Who is with me?
Never understood this type of mentality. If your goal is to get rejected 10 times in one day to build confidence, why don't you just spit in their face and then ask them out, you'll get rejected no problem.

Instead of depending on people putting you down to get confidence, which makes absolutely no sense in of itself, you should learn something and try new things. That's the only way to get real confidence, self-reliance. Not depending on other people for your self worth.
 

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That could really work well though, it's a reverse-psychology to get our hard wired instincts to have less of an influence on us in that regard.

I like it!


It's possible you'd end up with more numbers than you know what to deal with.

Girl: "I wouldn't date you if you were the last man on the earth."

Guy: "I was hoping you'd say that." (Walks away)

Girl: "Hey, where are you going?"
 

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Today I was on the bus sitting next to this cute girl. She was reading a book and I kept telling myself to hit her up. I think because the last three girls I've hit up and got their numbers and they ALL flaked, I was very hesitant so I didn't approach her.

Got off the bus thinking wtf did I have to lose? I need to do something like this to wake me the f*ck up. If I don't approach, I'm going to have no chance anyway. Last three girls I have approached I had great chemistry with but they all flaked. Unless I'm doing everything wrong after getting the number then I have to keep trying.
 

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well i got 3 rejections today. i actually had 1 yesterday and 2 tuesday. the first one today was a real ***** and got smart with me at taco bell. as i was getting my drink...
girl: hey are you 63 they just called it out.
me: oh ok thanks.
later...
me: so how did you know i was 63? (in a teasing fashion)
girl: because you were in front of meee. i was 64. duh
me: oh all right. didnt realize you were paying such close attention to me.
girl:....
she left haha. the other 2 just ignored and avoided me after i spoke to them. biatches...
thats ok though, i feel like i won.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Getting rejection for the sake of rejection is backwards, to put it mildly.

I can't solve this problem, so let me fail 150 times maybe that'll teach me how NOT to fail. But it doesn't work that way. And because you go to encounters knowing that you want to be rejected, that takes the real anxiety of a real approach as well.

The real challenge is to do as many approaches as possible; and get as many positive reactions as you can, and NOT mind the failed attempts at all.

I think the path to mastery lies in that direction.

Cheers,

BM
 

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I can understand the reasoning applied here, but I think the real reason behind it is still FEAR. You're not really getting over your fear, you've just found another way to AVOID it.

Nevertheless, I don't want to speak too soon -- this might work. If you try it, let us know how it went.

Also, at the end of the day, even if suboptimal, it's still better than doing NOTHING at all.
 

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csycpr said:
I can understand the reasoning applied here, but I think the real reason behind it is still FEAR. You're not really getting over your fear, you've just found another way to AVOID it.

Nevertheless, I don't want to speak too soon -- this might work. If you try it, let us know how it went.

Also, at the end of the day, even if suboptimal, it's still better than doing NOTHING at all.
Agreed... However, I tried this about a year ago when I was finally ready to start learning what it was like to be single after a 6.5 year relationship.

The thing about it is, yes you start off in a poor mindset "trying" to get rejected. But then what happens is, an approach actually starts going well, and you slowly gain some confidence. You think to yourself "wait, I can actually do this! No point in continuing to 'try' for these rejections when I know I CAN get a number". Then you abandon the original plan and switch to real approaches.

It can happen at different times for different people. But the point is, it will happen.
 

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I did some approaches last night. I figured I'd catch the end of the SC-Vandy game and watch others too. I got rejected twice simply because I failed to close/had no desire to with those women in particular. I was given 2 numbers, both by MILFs hahaha. I danced on the floor with a chick and everyone else was watching. Would try this again.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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