Opener that worked for me the other night

[the_govner]

I went 2 for 2.

After the customary Hi, what's your name, where are you from, I asked:

So what's your story?? (then playfully pointed to my watch) You have 30 seconds to impress me.


Both gave that "YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT" look and it really worked well.

What do the experts think? Was I just lucky or does this opener hold any water?

 

[James45]

After the customary Hi, what's your name, where are you from, I asked:

Isn't that a lame AFC opener right there?

 

[daygameguy]

So what's your story?? (then playfully pointed to my watch) You have 30 seconds to impress me.

You used a plain introductory opener. But what made you stand out was this C&F bit that you added in. Its like saying "So are you guys gonna buy me a drink" or "i'm very high maintenance", which is pretty alpha. So you did good bro.. openers are just 10% of a conversation..

 

[LeComteDeMonteCristo]

I went 2 for 2.

After the customary Hi, what's your name, where are you from, I asked:

So what's your story?? (then playfully pointed to my watch) You have 30 seconds to impress me.


Both gave that "YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT" look and it really worked well.

What do the experts think? Was I just lucky or does this opener hold any water?

You are looking at this the wrong way.

An opener is just something used to start a conversation. It does not in itself generate interest. If you were able to transition into a conversation your opener was successful.

Ninety nine percent of the time a simple "Hi, how's it going?" will suffice but the truth is that it really does not matter what you say to a woman as long as you can convey two things: confidence and authenticity.

 

[Tear Gas]

You are looking at this the wrong way.

An opener is just something used to start a conversation. It does not in itself generate interest. If you were able to transition into a conversation your opener was successful.

Ninety nine percent of the time a simple "Hi, how's it going?" will suffice but the truth is that it really does not matter what you say to a woman as long as you can convey two things: confidence and authenticity.

exactly..what you say doesnt really mattter. Just engaging in conversation, showing confidence, and looking good is good enough :yes:

 

[Dongfu]

You are looking at this the wrong way.

An opener is just something used to start a conversation. It does not in itself generate interest.

An opener is your "one chance" to make a first impression. And if done right, it absolutely generates interest. It must. The part you got right is that it doesn't really matter so much what you say as long as you display confidence and authenticity.

Two guys can use the same words for an opener and get two different results. Actors can read the same lines of a script. One will demand your attention, the other sounds scripted. Get it.

For anyone wondering about what to say as an opener, just remember that you first words should be captivating, interesting and non-threatening.

 

[Dongfu]

Isn't that a lame AFC opener right there?

Again, your word choice isn't what dictates you being an AFC. It's how you say it. When a confident, genuine person speaks, it can not be seen as AFC. Where as an AFC can use the "greatest opener ever" and still be seen as a chump.

 

[LeComteDeMonteCristo]

For anyone wondering about what to say as an opener, just remember that you first words should be captivating, interesting and non-threatening.

Or alternatively you can just walk up, introduce yourself and still get laid.

How complicated you want to make such a naturally simple thing is up to you.

 

[James45]

I see, cheers guys.


I do understand genuinely confident people emit an aura that is natural and welcoming. Need to work on that.

 

[Dongfu]

Or alternatively you can just walk up, introduce yourself and still get laid.

How complicated you want to make such a naturally simple thing is up to you.

Good point. How about this then: If "you" are captivating, unthreatening and interesting, you dont need to do much at all.

 

[the_govner]

An opener is your "one chance" to make a first impression. And if done right, it absolutely generates interest. It must. The part you got right is that it doesn't really matter so much what you say as long as you display confidence and authenticity.

Two guys can use the same words for an opener and get two different results. Actors can read the same lines of a script. One will demand your attention, the other sounds scripted. Get it.

For anyone wondering about what to say as an opener, just remember that you first words should be captivating, interesting and non-threatening.

I like how you think.

Cheers.

 

[Crazy Asian]

Isn't that a lame AFC opener right there?

James it really does not matter what you say.

You can SAY the smoothest thing in the world, but still fail because of your lack of confidence. Girls can smell that sh1t a mile away. Almost any opener will work if you just do it with confidence and the belief that you are better than them.

 

[LeComteDeMonteCristo]

Good point. How about this then: If "you" are captivating, unthreatening and interesting, you dont need to do much at all.

Yes that is precisely it.

And not just being that man, but actually believing you are that man. Having that 100 percent unshakable confidence that women are attracted to you just for being your authentic self.

Approaching a woman with that attitude sub-communicates something far more powerful than any lines or gimmicks.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, I use weird openers sometimes. But I do it because it is fun and I like to be creative. I never view them as tools for generating attraction.

 

[Dongfu]

Yes that is precisely it.

And not just being that man, but actually believing you are that man. Having that 100 percent unshakable confidence that women are attracted to you just for being your authentic self.

Approaching a woman with that attitude sub-communicates something far more powerful than any lines or gimmicks.

The problem is we can talk about this to our brothers here, but we cannot really teach it. It is something you have to arrive at on your own. You cant buy it in a store. You cant learn it from a book. You cant get it here.

I don't want to use a cliche' analogy, but it is fitting. "It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Concentrate on the finger and you miss all of the celestial beauty."

The "finger" is pick-up lines, systems, books, cool openers, this forum. The moon is real inner game that transcends it all.

The only thing that guys who have "found it" can do here is point at it. If the ones looking for advice don't look further, they get stuck on the finger.

I found it, unfortunately by way of a long bout with heroin, crack, and speed addiction. But I pulled out of it and finally decided to really say "yes" to life. I lost myself completely and came back with real conviction. After beating addiction, meeting women is a piece of cake. Everyone has to find their own path to arrive.