"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Has anyone ever been in one? Know anybody in one? I don't really understand the dynamics of how this works. I wonder if it's possible to even make such a thing work? It sounds like a guy's dream come true, having your cake and eating it to. Having the stability and reliability of a normal relationship combined with the variety and excitement of banging different women.

I was a little surprised when somebody I recently added on facebook who I haven't talked to in probably 17 years just changed her status from "in a relationship" to "in an open relationship". She wasn't the type of girl I'd have ever expected to be into that. Also used to work with a pretty cute girl who was in some sorth of an open relationship deal even though there was a lot of drama with her boyfriend it seemed, but they were both fvcking other people. I was dying to fvck her myself but got stuck in the friendzone due to making the mistake of listening to her problems.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Okay, since no one replied, let me ask this way. Would you get with a girl who wanted an open relationship?
 
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speakeasy said:
Okay, since no one replied, let me ask this way. Would you get with a girl who wanted an open relationship?
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only if i felt like i wanted to get the SUPER AIDS.

brother that is not the way to do it. Girls are supposed to be in a closed relationship, YOU ARE THE ONE that's supposed to be in an open relationship if you know what i mean. Be a dj, have a girlfriend on the side but keep dating in secret.
 
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f283000 said:
only if i felt like i wanted to get the SUPER AIDS.

brother that is not the way to do it. Girls are supposed to be in a closed relationship, YOU ARE THE ONE that's supposed to be in an open relationship if you know what i mean. Be a dj, have a girlfriend on the side but keep dating in secret.
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Is it DJ to date secretly while telling a girl you're being exclusive with her? I'm not saying I haven't done it before, but I've stopped because it honestly doesn't seem very DJ to me.

But I would like to hear some other opinions for or against it.
 
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Being DJ has nothing to do with honesty per se. It's just a set of skills that makes you sexually attractive to women. You might use those skills to bang as many women as possible, or you might use it to find "the one" and settle down, but what you do with it is on you. There are happily married DJs and DJs who cheat on their girlfriends.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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f283000, look up the meaning of hypocrisy. People like you give sites like this a bad name.

Now I don't think there is anything particularly wrong with dating/screwing multiple people at the same time, but thinking its terrible for a girl to do while doing it secretly yourself is a bit messed up.

To the OP, never tried it personally, but I have seen friends do it. It generally doesn't work out long term from what I've seen.

I would possibly consider it but it really depends on a lot of things, for example if I was at a point in my life where I wasn't really interested in a serious relationship but had a good vibe with a girl, and we were both okay with it, maybe.

Can anybody clarify the difference between say **** buddies/FWB and an open relationship?
 
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