"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Only motivated by hot women?

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Don't get me wrong I have other goals in life besides dating or having sex with hot women but at this point in my life it's all I seem to care about. My other goals such as starting a really good band that gigs out a couple times a month, having a steady 9 to 5 job that I enjoy to pay the bills and finding a quality woman inside and out to settle down with will come in time. After all I don't have any "get rich quick" or "be someone famous" goals.

At this point however I'm in my mid 20s, feel like I'm in my prime as far as dating goes. I finally am able to talk to women, go on dates and not be anxious. Finally completely got over my "shy factor." The only thing that motivates me short-term is the idea of meeting and banging what I consider a HB9 or 10. Notice I say what I consider because not everyone has the same idea of a 9 or 10.

Before I started dating, I was a typical guy that dreamed about getting women but really had no idea what it entailed. What's ironic is that I feel I have the hard part down but the hard part really is finding a girl that's your type who wants to have sex.

I realize I'm in my mid-20s, don't belong in a serious relationship unless it just happens. Women tend to obsess over meeting the right person but men know that those kind of things just happen. I'm just looking for a hottie that I can date and have a lot of crazy sex with.

I guess I'm curious if I should be concerned that I don't have anything else in the short-term to motivate me and also if I want to meet HBs in a target poor area, where I should be going to look for them. I feel like if I want to meet them, I will have to get out of my comfort zone even more so than I already have. The girls I've dated so far were local and kind of just happened. There was work involved, but I didn't have to change up my routine.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Sounds like more of a 17-23ish mindset, but it's no big deal. Hot women are hot, don't think you're weird just cause you want to bag one. Maybe you'll get over this mindset soon, maybe a year from now. But it's not a horrible mindset, just roll with it and live life.
 
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It's funny you say that because when I was 17-23 my thought process was similar but I wasn't talking to or meeting women. Had other sh*t to deal with and dealt with it. So I guess now I'm catching up.

I'm still a virgin too so that could have something to do with it. Have done "everything else" with a few women and it just made me more curious than I was.

Sidenote: My advice to guys in their late teens/early twenties. If you don't have your sh*t together, don't waste your time worrying about women. While I'm catching up, I wouldn't have it any other way. I wasn't ready back then and probably would have just clinged to some girl.
 
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I'm unsure of how to approach things. I'm basically looking for an 8 or better that just wants to have quick sex but the bar scene isn't my thing. I'm willing to give it a try as a last resort but not until I've tried all other options.

For those of you who are thinking "Settle for less" I won't for a number of reasons:

1.)I'm not a bad looking guy. I'm not a hunk but I improved my appearance drastically and look my age for the first time in my life.

2.)I dated a girl that was an 8ish so I've proven that I can attract a hottie with my appearance.

3.)The curiosity stems from wanting to experience sex with an attractive woman. After seeing hot strippers naked and the girl I dated topless, that's what it's all about. It's not about seeing some chubby girl that no one wants to see naked.

Online game has the advantage that you can make it clear that you're just looking for sex but as you know the quality of women isn't there. An occasional 7/8 that is usually just on the dating or network site for attention.

So any advice on how/where to meet a hottie given the things I have going for me would be appreciated.
 

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Hey, don't mean to threadcrap or call you out, but honestly, you just need to suck it up.

I don't like bars/clubs either, much like I don't enjoy the gym, and quite honestly, I don't really like the amount of social activity required to get with an attractive girl. But whatever, I still do it that is what is required of me in order for me to get what I want.

So instead of sitting around idly hoping for the most ideal situation or adhering to your comfort zones, just go out and do it, simple as that.

I'm a pretty avid real estate investor and if there's any correlating principle to pick up, it's to maximize profit on all fronts. In other words, make money via:

1. Monthly Rental Income
2. Deducting as much money as possible from tax deductions
3. Choosing an area most probable for appreciation.
4. Etc

Anyway, don't mean to get off on a tangent here, but what I'm trying to say is to maximize your opportunities with women. Join a gym with lots of hot women, take a yoga class, go to larger coffee. Just some changes I made in my life personally to hedge my bet. Personally, I'm not a giant day gamer, but I am a pretty giant fan of Paul Janka's teachings and I do apply them when possible. But most importantly, I don't think there is a better spot to prospect than a bar or a nightclub. I mean come on, it's a place where LOTS of girls get dressed up to go out and potentially meet people, so that precedence is already set, more than often their tipsy or drunk, if you have dance game, it's basically a socially acceptable way to dry hump a girl in public. You can literally meet 30 new women in a given night in the span of only a couple hours. In terms of efficiency, I don't see anything that can beat it. If you need some good advice check out my mentor's blog (asian playboy), he's given me some of the best guidance out there

http://theasianplayboy.blogspot.com/
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You're throwing away too much of your life focusing on bedding women solely.

Liberate yourself from this pent up desire and you'll eventually land a hot deal.
 
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Allurre said:
You're throwing away too much of your life focusing on bedding women solely.

Liberate yourself from this pent up desire and you'll eventually land a hot deal.
I'm not disagreeing but I'm 25 and a virgin I'm not getting any younger, no? As it is I asked out a girl who from far away looked older but up close was 18 and looked like she was young enough to be my sister and I felt like I've already wasted enough time not talking to women. I'm at a point where I feel like I only want to talk to women 22 and up which is fine except for the fact that 18-21 are the college years where most women get the sleeping around out of their system.
 
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