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Online Dating vs. Real-Life Dating

Double J

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There's been a lot of racket as of late about online dating - some people dismissing it completely while others acknowledge the good results they've had. I've had my share of online/offline experiences myself. Here's my take on it:

Online dating can be a numbers game just as much as meeting girls the conventional way - but I think it relies more heavily on LUCK. After talking to a girl online for a while, it's very easy to find yourself idealizing her in the best light possible, and she might very well do the same. This, guys, opens doors to disappointment. The best thing to do is to talk as little as possible online, a little on the phone, and meet that same week if possible. That way, you know right away whether or not there's chemistry/attraction and you keep from wasting valuable time getting to know someone more who you might not connect with at all. If it just so happens that your perception of her matches reality, you're one lucky S.O.B, because it usually doesn't happen.

Speaking of attraction, if you haven't realized it, the attraction process works in reverse online. In person, two people are initially drawn to each other through physical attraction, and then they get to know each other on other levels to see if they click like that as well. Online (in IM) and later on the phone, however, a girl is more likely to first be drawn to you based on what you tell her and your character, behavior, etc ONCE she really gets to know you. That isn't to say that the picture doesn't matter. Girls seem to be more shallow online at times than in person because they really have nothing else to go by. In person, a girl could initially not be so physically attracted, but tools like confidence and sense of humor work wonders on their emotions - they can't help but get attached, and this doesn't work as effectively over a computer. That's why you have to meet them as soon as possible.

So what should you do? Get her picture first. If you think she's hot, don't send her your picture yet and let her get to know you first by applying C&F techniques, etc. Once you feel she's earned the chance to see the pic, she's less likely to put as much weight on the pic, for she is already drawn to you on another level (This should take about a week or two and should only be done if you really like her).

Like most of you, I've met some real weirdos online. One had just broken up with her ex (she said she broke up w/ him but I think it was the opposite) and she decided to pick a lucky fool (me) to avenge for her out-of-wack emotional state. Another one had been engaged and cheated on a few months prior, and I should have seen that as a red flag but I never did. I met one that was the biggest drama queen I've ever met, and she was fat too. I met two others that were very overweight. And the other two seemed to put their guard up so high (they were not comfortable with the offline meeting thing) that they were flustered and boring the whole time. Out of all the ones i've met from online, i've had a relationship with one, which was another nutcase that had emotional problems; couldn't commit and wanted to see a shrink.

So as you could see, I haven't had the best of luck. I'm not on one of those personals sites; I just randomly IM these girls in the AOL Directory and take my chances, which is awfully risky but oh well. Even though I haven't had any great experiences thus far, I don't regret having met these girls. I used to be a very shy and introverted guy, and meeting these girls gave me great practice. I feel that i've developed enough confidence to approach them in person, use c&f now, etc to leave the internet routine alone for a while.

I'll pick meeting girls the conventional way any day - nothing beats the thrill and challenge of winning over a girl you met unexpectedly in school, at the mall, etc. To me, meeting them online seems more fabricated and sometimes too time-consuming, but it has its advantages. You could meet girls like this that you otherwise would never meet in person. But it makes you wonder why attractive girls that could get any guy would choose to put their ad up. They have their motives - just got out of a relationship and need attention, want an easy lay, etc.

Although you shouldn't knock off online dating completely, you should make it your second option. Resort to searching online when you are super busy and don't have that much time to be frequenting clubs and other places. The more you go out and meet them in person, though, the more sociable you become and the more confidence you can build up. It's all about having the right balance.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

tom121

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there's always a problem

unless your super model good looking, they wouldn't want to meet you right away...

or it could be she is just bored to hell or needed a free movie ticket or whatever...

I gave up on it after meeting about 7 girls (I am still in contact with 3 though) because one day this dumb WH*RE acted like she wanted me so bad and wants to meet me rightly, after talking to her on the phone, I guess I kind of ruined it because I say dumb stuff (it comes naturally) and she keeps on saying "Oh my god" she must've thought I was a loser but who gives a **** of what she thinks anymore. She ditched me, made me wait 1 hour and 30 minutes until I left. I've gotten over it and I don't trust internet dating site, lmao I am scarred for life because of her...

also I'd say about 80% of the people on dating site on either, loser, desperate, bored, gold digger, cheater, etc...
 

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I have had a little bit of success with online dating but mostly bad experiences. The first time I met someone from an online dating site, it went bad. The next time, I met a pretty cute chick. The date went alright for the most part. And that night ended up being my first night of action. But it ended up going nowhere after that. I meet more chicks later on from dating sites but they had horrible personalities. I paid for her food (kind of expensive too) and I didn't even get a thank you. That *****.

Anyway, later I meet a really nice girl but she didn't look all that great. Very overweight and all. We're friends now but she still wants more than that. I don't. I feel shallow but I just couldn't be with her. Oh yeah, and one time I met this really cute and shy girl who was really small. She wanted to go clubbing but we ended up just hanging out downtown for a little while since she had to leave late that night for something.

I agree with Double J. I think there is potential to online dating but you shouldn't use it as your primary tool. I've met a couple of girls in person first but that never went anywhere either. Only because they were taken of course. Gotta move on, ya know?

If you're going to do online dating, then make your ad interesting and make it stand out in some way. Show women that you aren't just some average joe just looking for some sex. For your pic, I would suggest posting a pic where you are doing something (i.e. a hobby). Girls find that very attractive to see a pic of someone doing what they like to do in their spare time. You play the guitar? Post a pic of you playing the guitar. That could increase your chances tremendously.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Sarging online is no different than sarging face to face. It's all about qualifying. Some guys :)D) are excellent qualifiers and can either have a face to face meeting or next a woman online in a week or less. Good ones can actually meet a woman or two each week.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I have been always against it....however, Im beginning to re-think my stance on it. I may investigate it further....

It just takes alot of knowledge and understanding - don't jump into it blind.
 

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I have been on match.com for a little over two months. My observations are as follows:

1. The attractive younger ones are by and large attention wh0res seeking validation or are plain gold diggers only interested in a free meal. The last good looking chick actually contacted me first, but all her conversations centered around how many guys were after her, how many guy friends she had etc.. typical AW stuff.

2. The older ones (30+), are more serious and are honestly looking to hook up with a quality guy. The draw back is that they usually have alot of baggage, just came out of a divorce or are not that attractive.

3. The remainder are just seeking thrills and/or are horny and looking for a ONS, but again these chicks are usually unattractive, fat or have serious issues.

I have, like Fransisco said, been seriously qualifying all the women who have contacted me and out of the 50+ , I have only gone out with 2 or 3. The rest were just not interesting, did not meet my physical requirements or had too many red flags.
 

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for me, online dating is just a tool to meet her friends :)
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by sapphire
I have been on match.com for a little over two months. My observations are as follows:

1. The attractive younger ones are by and large attention wh0res seeking validation or are plain gold diggers only interested in a free meal. The last good looking chick actually contacted me first, but all her conversations centered around how many guys were after her, how many guy friends she had etc.. typical AW stuff.


True, but isn't this the case for most of the attractive younger women in society?


2. The older ones (30+), are more serious and are honestly looking to hook up with a quality guy. The draw back is that they usually have alot of baggage, just came out of a divorce or are not that attractive.


This too is generally true. I am starting to find more attractive 30 somethings because of the new health craze. There is still baggage but that's why I do not approach women that are fresh out of a relationship. They are usually too afraid not to put their ex's labels onto you.


3. The remainder are just seeking thrills and/or are horny and looking for a ONS, but again these chicks are usually unattractive, fat or have serious issues.


True again but still, you can run into these women at any department or grocery store.


I have, like Fransisco said, been seriously qualifying all the women who have contacted me and out of the 50+ , I have only gone out with 2 or 3. The rest were just not interesting, did not meet my physical requirements or had too many red flags.
I've had over 700 views of my profile and I'm guessing that I've conversed with about 200 women. Of those I actually chose to meet about 20 of them. Out of the 20 I still see 5 or 6. Understand that this is over a three month period.

I'll reiterate that I still sarge at work and when I'm out and about. That will add another 5 or six into the rotation. Being able to call up any of 10 or so women to do something with helps from getting one-itis. You only need to see 2 or 3 a week and you're busy for the entire month.
 
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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia


True, but isn't this the case for most of the attractive younger women in society?

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I've had over 700 views of my profile and I'm guessing that I've conversed with about 200 women. Of those I actually chose to meet about 20 of them. Out of the 20 I still see 5 or 6. Understand that this is over a three month period.

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Francisco,
How were your experiences with them?
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by Double J
Francisco,
How were your experiences with them?
Since learning how to qualify, I haven't had a "bad" experience. With that being said, they were all at least "nice girls," (the 20 out of 200) but not enough to keep my interest. They were all attractive (HB7 or better) but again, they just didn't have that extra something.

I'm extremely picky about women. I took a test that compaired my wants in a women with what's available in my metropolitan area and only .03 percent fall into that category. I've tried being less picky and that works fine with girls I just go out with and maybe occasionally fool around with. As for long term material, I've found some HBs that didn't mesh well with my personality or I find women with great personalities but not what I'm looking for appearance wise.

So those are the ones (five or six of them) I just go out with for filler, the ones that keep me from ever getting 'one-itis.' We hang out, watch movies together, fool around and have a generally good time. They mostly try to qualify themselves to me since they know that I go out with other women. But still, they enjoy my company and don't mind (much) that I'm not devoted to them.

Does that answer your question?
 

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Scarred for life eh...

That is such a feminine way of looking at things. Nothing should intimidate you or turn you off so much that you can't go back in there and give it another shot. Men don't get phased by one bad experience.
 

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Originally posted by Double J
The best thing to do is to talk as little as possible online, a little on the phone, and meet that same week if possible. That way, you know right away whether or not there's chemistry/attraction... ....you shouldn't knock off online dating... ...when you are super busy and don't have that much time to be frequenting clubs and other places.
Online dating is the future!

I meet tons of hot, young girls all the time and bang them usually on the first date!

Hell, I even started a site that is dedicated to giving advice on how to meet and seduce the girls you meet online!

Cheers!

Eric
www.tenderz.net/forum
 
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