"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Online Dating --> Phone Extraction

omkara

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So is this the preferred method of moving things forward when you get a girls number from online? Personally I hate talking on the phone to people I don't know. It seems phony to call them up and say 'hey, this is omkara', when we've never talked before. I would actually be more nervous to make a phone call than to meet in person. At least meeting in person is genuine and organic, and you share a presence where you don't necessarily have to talk the whole time.

I have tried just texting girls when they give me their number. This works sometimes, when you get girls who aren't that much in demand. But then a lot of times it has ruined a perfectly good seduction. They automatically assume that you're too afraid to call them, and consider it a lack of effort. I have had girls specifically say, 'call me,' 'talk soon,' etc. So I'm pretty sure this is what most girls prefer.

So those of you who've had success with online dating, is this your usual MO, to give an actual phone call? Any other thoughts on this?

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Templar

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Somebody answer quickly...I've got an online meet calling me in a few minutes!
 

TheBucketOfTruth

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Avoid texting with these women. It will only hinder your progress. Texting is impersonal and emotionless for the most part. You want to be progressing towards a more personal and familiar interaction with these women, if not you'd just talk to them online all day. So yes, talk and then meet up in person.
 

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Where I'm from the universally accepted "rule" is text up to the first date. Just keeps a little distance there in case the online contact turns out to be a bit screwy, it cuts both ways. These days there's a heightened level of intimacy with phone conversations because of the predominance of texting. Calls are basically reserved for the inner circle of friends. I personally don't want an online contact assuming that level of familiarity before a face to face meet up, had it get out of hand more than once. Might be some advantage to talking rather than texting if that's where your game is strongest, if it's not, stick with text.

It's kind of an old-school DJ approach to insist on talking over the phone, it was probably a more relevant and useful technique seven or eight years ago. Moreover, I found that girls who wanted to initiate phone contact early turned out to be super needy basket cases.

Not to say you can't do it, but your contact isn't going to assume you lack balls by texting, there's other reasons at play, most people in that scene already know that.
 

omkara

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Wilko said:
I found that girls who wanted to initiate phone contact early turned out to be super needy basket cases.
That sounds awesome. Maybe she will want to move in with me! :rockon:

Seriously though, I think maybe this is the kind of girls I tend to attract--the sensitive type. It doesn't get talked about much on here, but Player Supreme talks about how there are different strategies to attract different types of women, and different guys attract different types of women. I tend to go for the Good Girl type, and they tend to like me. I've noticed that too much ****iness early on can scare them off. I'm thinking of going total AFC on some of these girls (with slight modifications), and see if it works. And then amp up the ****iness after I've won their trust. I think Roissy calls it beta bait-and-switch game.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Mr.Positive

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If you get a gal's number online, call her up. Part of the excitement in that is talking to someone new. You both want to get to know each other. When you talk to her, act like you already know her and are talking with an old friend.

Online dating is a piece of cake, and almost too easy. All you do is message a couple times, just ask for the number.

If a gal give's it to you...she wants you to call!

Call her up, if you like her still, invite her to meet you for coffee. It really is that simple.
 
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