The thing with OLD is that you're playing the game with your hands tied behind your back. You can't use your voice; you can't use your body language; you can't use eye contact; you can't use touch; you can't use expressions; and the phone offers infinite competition for her attention. That said, the weather in my city has prevented me from going out so I'm toying around on it for the first time in years--and it's way tougher than 'in person'--though still doable if you can get her reacting to you emotionally & not logically. Again,
much harder thru a phone screen--and even harder pre-match (so make sure your bio & pictures do a good job with that).
Personally saving a few members, I don't how all these SS guys are sleeping with all these good looking girls with such ease. Either my standards are too high, or I'm doing something fundamentally wrong, which I highly doubt.
Sad thing is it will never get better. If one guy doesn't give her what she wants, you got 100 more guys more than willing.
But we truly are at the stage where 8/10 level males are literally frothing at the mouth to get a 5/10 female. Its like if you are a dude, to TRULY have dating success you need:
The looks
The job
The confidence
The social circle
The game
The personality
And people might scoff but realistically its true. Its only the elite level DJ's that can get away with not being a total package but still get true dating success long term (im not talking about ons with 6/10s here)
DUALISTIC MATING STRATEGY. What both of you guys are talking about here comes down to that. On one side of entry--The Logically-Based Provider Algorithm--the barrier to entry is infinitely high. That's where you get the impossible OLD checklists & the "I don't like fvckboys" & "I'm not that type of girl" stuff. Logically, all of those are the qualities of the men she
should (same way as she knows she
should eat her vegetables, but that won't mean she won't excitedly eat a Big Mac when it's in front of her
). And she was in a very logical state of mind when she made her profile & will remain logically to the extent that you don't appeal to her emotions.
But just by
attempting to qualify to those checklists or taking them seriously, you place yourself solidly in that algorithm--and good luck!!! lol. But there's another side to that coin. The emotionally-based, hormonally-based Lover Algorithm. Here the barrier to entry--at least by any logical metrics is stupid low.
Be fvcking sexy. By that, I mean,
appeal to her emotions. Sex is rarely a logical decision--it's usually not a very logical thing to do & we rarely do it with the people we really should.
Arousal is not a choice.
I go super in depth on that distinction in this thread:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/metoo-what-it-means-for-you-how-to-move-forward.245177/
Once you fvck a girl, it's super easy to date her. Way, way easier than it is to date a girl & then fvck her or to even date a girl in the first place. If the game is hard for you, you're making it that way. Now, admittedly, I say that as a conventionally attractive guy--I'm good looking, which is why I'm confident that looks aren't all that important. When I relied on those, my results were pretty damn sporadic. Things only got easy when I altered my
behavior. And of the 5 or 6 guys I've met who are really good with girls, all of them work low status jobs; more than a couple of them have substance abuse problems; all except one are below average height & ethnic (Hispanic, FWIW); one of them is married; two of them are usually a solid 15 years older than the girls they fvck; all of them have below average facial aesthetics. Logically, no woman ever would tell you that those are the kinds of guys she wants to sleep with. But all of them get girls reacting emotionally--and that, plus a little bit of leadership & logistics,
is really all it takes.
