"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Online dating: ask her out in the first message

alboh

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I haven't been on here in a very long time, but I thought I'd share one tip I've learned in the always-treacherous world of online dating. My old approach when I found a girl I liked was to message her with some questions, go back and forth a few times, then finally ask her out. But I found this incredibly boring and awkward.

Then I tried something new - asking a girl out in the first e-mail. I'll write something like Hey, you seem really interesting. We should go out for drinks sometime soon ;). Well, usually I make it a bit longer than that.

My success rate is much, much higher with this strategy.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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mcs

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what if she starts giving you 'i wanna know you better before meeting?' what do you think - is this pure BS or give her something and ask later again?
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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It works as long as you have given a good enough reason for them to meet you, it's their call on whether it's good enough though.
 

Beethoven

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Yep, you'll get more success asking women out in the first email than waiting for a dozen or so - assuming your profile is up to scratch. But I think you'd get even more success asking them out in the third email. Too few emails = worrying for a girl, as she doesn't have a real impression of you yet. Too many emails = boring for a girl, she has loads of emails already, you're dragging it out. As usual, 'virtue is the mean between two extremes'.
 

Luveno

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If a girl emails you first, its a no-brainer to reply with plans for a date.

If you email a girl first, its best to request the date after she replies.

Also, state that you are interested in meeting people in the real world on your profile. Do not waiver from this
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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armadon

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I decided to try out eharmony and so far It has worked descent. Setup a date for tonight and have 6 other numbers and that was just from this week. I started it up on Monday. i had to sift through a ton of women though to find the girls I wanted to take out. It's about one good women for every 5 with kids. There are good looking women on it also but majority are ugs.

I limit myself to 2 emails and it's working great. On the second email I just say send me your number and I'll give you a call. It's worked all but once so far.
 
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