"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Oneitis is haunting the **** out of me, any ideas??

the_govner

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I'm 24 so thought I try out the mature forum. So there's this girl that I chased AFC style exactly a year ago around Feb. She left the country I live to move to LA. I ****ing go to LA just to see her. That's how AFC I was! End result: She loves me like a friend. Whoopie****ingdo.

Shut down.

I didn't contact her till she came back in December and we bumped into each other. Talked for a few minutes and moved on. (keep in mind I buffed up and was looking 30times better than I did in Feb).

Nothing after that and mid Jan is her birthday so I send her a facebook personal message to wish her, this leads to a long letter replies back and forth, by long I mean 4-5 paragraphs. Maybe a total of 4 letters from each side. Nothing big though just about random topics.

Today I get an SMS saying:

Hey Govner! I'm in town for a week. What's up?

my question is: Is there a way to salvage this despite my AFC stupidity a year ago? Or am I going to be her lovable friend for life? I need my pride back!
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Excerpt from the 15 Lessons...

Pook said:
“But why, Pook!? Why is friendship hopeless!? I fall in love with my female friends. Do they not do the same?”

Pook then called up a woman. She appeared in a blaze of fire (probably from the place which all women are from…).

“Oh woman, pray tell! Why do you not go after your male friends?”

The woman looked amazed that anyone could ask her that. “Because they are just friends.”

“But do they not fall in love with you?”

“Yes. My male friends constantly fall in love with me.”

“And, speak truly madam, what do you and your male friends do?”

“Oh! Well, we hang out. We talk a lot.”

“Talk? About what?”

“Everything. Anything.”

“And they fall in love with you.”

“Yes.”

“Ahh…” said the Pook. “Now we have the answer. Away with you!” And the woman vanished in a fireball.

“What answer?”

“Why, it is a difference between the sexes. Young man, what do you do with your friends?”

He looked thoughtful. “We play basketball. We ride around town. We play video games. We…”

“But do you and your guy friends ever sit around and talk about your feelings and things going on in your life?”

The young man looked angry. “HELL NO!”

“There is your answer. Men do not get together and just talk. We do things. When we are with our women friends, we talk much more. Since we reserve our talking, sharing emotions and experiences, to our romantic interest, we get confused with our female friends. We begin to get interested in them because of this.”

“But what about women, Pook?”

Pook pointed to the telephone lines above them. Lightning surged and glowed along the lines.

“The phone lines! They are on fire!”

“Indeed. When women get together, what do they do?”

The young man looked at the fiery lines. “They talk!”

“About what?”

He looked thoughtful as sparks rained on him. “Everything!”

“Women usually aren’t used to getting together and doing pure action. So when they do so with their guy friends, they get a bit confused as well.”

“I see…”

“So avoid the friendship route. When you see a woman you are interested in, go for her romantically. For a friend she sees, a friend you shall always be.”
 

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KontrollerX said:
Excerpt from the 15 Lessons...

****. I forgot about this. Thanks.

I replied her with:

Welcome home. I'm in a meeting will call you after.

I'll invite her to a quick cup of coffee or some physical fun (beach/boxing/whatever).

What do you think?
 

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Sounds good.

Just make sure to treat her like a chick you are interested in like Pook basically said and see what happens from there.

You know initiate kino, C+F, go for the kiss if you get the vibes etc.

You'll know if she's a cold fish and a dead end for you soon enough if you try those and they fail to light a fire in her for you.
 

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KontrollerX said:
Sounds good.

Just make sure to treat her like a chick you are interested in like Pook basically said and see what happens from there.

You know initiate kino, C+F, go for the kiss if you get the vibes etc.

You'll know if she's a cold fish and a dead end for you soon enough if you try those and they fail to light a fire in her for you.

Great thanks bro!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Cop out. Shes NOT interested. Give up
 

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basically one-itis is a deadly sin, bro. if you're working on self-improvement, if you're a DJism follower, there's good news for you: you'll get over it, sooner or later :)

now, if you had a break from this girl and you managed to make a deep change in your mentality, you have not much to loose here. but judging by your account - are you sure you want to play the role of a saviour? is it really DJish?
 

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If you decide to go for her romantically, you WILL lose her as a friend. From what I read, you might not care about that, but it's worth keeping in mind.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I need advice. I was amazingly flaked on.

So I spoke to her on Tuesday and told her I'd be out wed night and we should catch up over a couple drinks and she JUMPED at the idea.

Wed she says she's tired, jetlagged, but suggested that we meet up thurs fri or sat anything I want. So I said fri sat i'm busy but I might be able to squeeze her in on thurs. I said I had a lunch date and that I wouldn't mind meeting her after. And I said I'd call her the next day.

So thursday comes, I call her at around 2, no answer, 3, no answer, 5, no answer, 8, no answer. I know this is needy but this is holy week, a rare holiday, and i wanted to know what was going on so I wouldn't waste my holiday. Its friday night now and I haven't heard anything from her, haven't attempted to contact her since the last call on thurs.

My question is: Do I let it go? Tell her off? Take any action? Or just sit back? For any girl i would sit back, but this feels different. I was actually in love with this girl. She has no history of being cruel or disrespectful.

This is major DISRESPECT. For those that haven't read the first few posts in this thread, please do so you can understand the predicament.

Thanks guys.
 

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Her actions speak loudly. For your own sake man, next her. Don't contact her at all. If she doesn't contact you in the next week or so, I'd just delete her number or whatever to get rid of any temptation to contact her. Start dating others and just move on. What she's doing is not cool, and you will NOT put up with it.
 

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ARrocket said:
Her actions speak loudly. For your own sake man, next her. Don't contact her at all. If she doesn't contact you in the next week or so, I'd just delete her number or whatever to get rid of any temptation to contact her. Start dating others and just move on. What she's doing is not cool, and you will NOT put up with it.

****. I really really cared for this girl. Pardon the AFC in me coming out, but she was flawless until this came up. Should I really?
 

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the_govner said:
So thursday comes, I call her at around 2, no answer, 3, no answer, 5, no answer, 8, no answer.
The more you call her the more you're pushing her away. Forget about her. She'll respect you more if you give her some space and if you don't really care about making her your girlfriend.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You sure are rewarding her a lot for bad behavior. That's pretty damn weak on your part. Kick back, relax, and forget about her. Find 3 or 4 woman to keep you satisfied so you won't get so overtly interested and needy with just one chick.
 

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tick37 said:
You sure are rewarding her a lot for bad behavior. That's pretty damn weak on your part. Kick back, relax, and forget about her. Find 3 or 4 woman to keep you satisfied so you won't get so overtly interested and needy with just one chick.

That advice is the basis to the gender battle... women have no problem havin 5 and 6 other options but for us men its its alot more difficult...
 

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DonGorgon said:
That advice is the basis to the gender battle... women have no problem havin 5 and 6 other options but for its its alot more difficult...
I don't understand what your saying here. Did you leave out a word?
 

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It's not so hard. I have my fill, and I'm not a millionaire. The more women you have, the more likely you won't chase them because there are too many and too little time which in turn keeps them interested in you because you are not chasing them. So it's a cycle that helps you get and keep more women because you don't have the time or resources to pursue them as if you only had one.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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