"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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One way to avoid being cheated on/F'ed over

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Date a women with confidence and a strong will.

if you have ever seen King of the Hill..


Hanks wife is a good example....gratide its fictionally but there plenty of women out there....with her mindset and attitude.

and those women are the ones who from the bible on page 2 or 3 it says:


a women will be loyal to her man and he will rule over her.

I know thats not word for word.

but those women have that attitude...im not saying rule over women..but my women...yea yea give me the same ole speech will cheat on me because im a big fag...blah.


she has a strong mindset of right and wrong..and to her being loyal to me and working threw hell and high water is more important then to ever look to the other side.


keep this in mind when you date a women with any issues at all..if a women has EVEN 1 issue...then ur taking a risk.


infact...all the women I know that havent cheated...have the same riteious attitude and all believe in god.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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But are they attractive? What if the only reason they dont cheat is because the majority chicks like this are so fat that they cant fit through the doorway so they are confined to their house? You are choosing to date based on compensating for your insecurity?
 

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But are they attractive? What if the only reason they dont cheat is because the majority chicks like this are so fat that they cant fit through the doorway so they are confined to their house? You are choosing to date based on compensating for your insecurity?

what does that have to do with dating a good girl?


just because a female is attractive doesnt mean she sleeps with every guy she meets

nor means she will be a bytch

nor means she willl cheat
 

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lol^^^

Originally posted by frivolousz21
what does that have to do with dating a good girl?


just because a female is attractive doesnt mean she sleeps with every guy she meets

nor means she will be a bytch

nor means she willl cheat
I had trouble understanding what you wrote...I reread it and still Im a little confused


Anyways I didnt say what you insuinuated I said just now. Good girls are usually in my experience girls who havent had the right person come and leave them head over heels even tho tehy are in a relation. Mostly overweight girls dont get persued so when they get a man and so thats why I said them as an example

If you have enough value and she KNOWS she can lose you if she messes up, then she is less likely to cheat, but theres always a chance, everyone has a price...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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If you have enough value and she KNOWS she can lose you if she messes up, then she is less likely to cheat, but theres always a chance, everyone has a price...

yea everyone has a price..

but that price isnt always another person.


if u give me 10 million dollars then im sold :)
 

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Originally posted by frivolousz21
keep this in mind when you date a women with any issues at all..if a women has EVEN 1 issue...then ur taking a risk.
Keep your original post in mind...

What is an issue in the sense you mention here?
 

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well anything to do with depression

confidence problems

abusive past of any kind.

the list could go on and on.

grantide there are exceptions to this.

but we all have met women with baggage, and most of the time they wouldnt make good LTR partners
 

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Originally posted by frivolousz21
yea everyone has a price..

but that price isnt always another person.


if u give me 10 million dollars then im sold :)
It is when the right person comes, and they feel an incredible connection that starts from here (self point) and has this warm tingly feeling that excites you. Have you ever hada time where you felt like that frivilous? :D
 

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It is when the right person comes, and they feel an incredible connection that starts from here (self point) and has this warm tingly feeling that excites you. Have you ever hada time where you felt like that frivilous?
when I was 15 :)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Originally posted by frivolousz21
well anything to do with depression

confidence problems

abusive past of any kind.

the list could go on and on.

grantide there are exceptions to this.

but we all have met women with baggage, and most of the time they wouldnt make good LTR partners
So what if you date a women with confidence and strong will.

The only reason she overcame them is BECASUE she has issues. Without pain, there is no gain, if you submit a girl to pain, you can gain... Likewise, you can gain, if the girl is a pain. On another note, if a girl has experienced no pain, how is she perceived as confident and strong, without being able to have and overcome said issues?

I have met many many girls who had abusive pasts. Not simply physical or sexual abuse as children, but as adults. They are now successful, and guys adore them. The dudes think they are 'totes adobie'.

How do you describe that, how can you tell us not to pursue a woman with issues, if she really does have them?

You better not say ignore them.
 

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well if she has overcome them...

then they arent issues anymore.

im talking about dating a women who say was abused by her first serious bf.

and now she doesnt trust you because of that.


thats an issue..that you will deal with until she self medicates the problem.


same girl, lets it go..and dates you and trust you..then its not an issue.



How do you describe that, how can you tell us not to pursue a woman with issues, if she really does have them?

well you can pursue her..but beware that you will have to deal with it.

that doesnt mean it will be the end of all ends...but you may suffer from it.

or you can help her threw it and still be her lover.

its just easier to date women who dont have issues...but thats not to say that it cant be done..but it may not always be pretty.
 

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friv are you starting to harbor homosexual tendencies again? :rolleyes:

this is the dumbest post i've ever read...
 

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Originally posted by frivolousz21
well if she has overcome them...

then they arent issues anymore.

im talking about dating a women who say was abused by her first serious bf.

and now she doesnt trust you because of that.

thats an issue..that you will deal with until she self medicates the problem.

same girl, lets it go..and dates you and trust you..then its not an issue.

well you can pursue her..but beware that you will have to deal with it.

that doesnt mean it will be the end of all ends...but you may suffer from it.

or you can help her threw it and still be her lover.

its just easier to date women who dont have issues...but thats not to say that it cant be done..but it may not always be pretty.
OKAY OKAY OKAY, enough of the obvious. If a girl deals with her problems, of course they aren't problems anymore... I said that to you, and you just changed the words and threw it back to me...

If a girl doesn't voice her problems, and she doesn't dump any of it on you. She still has problems, like guys on this site, and abroad, they're not perfect.

How do you describe choosing a girl for an LTR if she won't bring them up, she won't admit to them, but they are there. They are in her work ethic, her propensity to avoid negative people who affect her friends lives, the list goes on and on...

Like they aren't OBVIOUS issues, they are issues that she has to deal with herself.

There are tons of women out there who have this emotional baggage that are out in the open. Those are the girls I go for, I know that they are begging for help, without openly saying it. I've got a thing for innuendo when it's face to face. Doesn't show online because the terms are ineffiable in the english language...

Meh, everyday I start to hate this site more and more. The thinking is so single minded towards women. I love the site for that because it describe 99% of people out there, but the experience I am looking for is beyond just picking up women for sex. It's picking up their esteem and leaving them happier no matter if I am with them or not... I hate to leave a good woman hanging without adding something for her after I leave.

I am looking for women who can give me a good word.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Friv,
You're way caught up in the notion that life is static with your posts. It isn't life is a living breathing dynamic force. The world has changed between the time it has taken me to write the first word of this reply to the time it took me to write this one.

People go in and out of issues that are often times beyond their own control. Peoples desires, passions, mindsets, and outlooks are always changing. The issue free girl that you think wont cheat on you today may encounter a life changing force tonight. This could bring about certain "issues" this can cause re-evaluation of what her world was. There is no way to overcome the whims of the world, you are not always in control and never will be.

This brings up the notion of calibrating and adjusting to dynamic situations but I'm not going to go on with that. You're assuming that the morally righteous type wont ever cheat based on strong values and character. You need to consider the emotions and feelings that can cause girls to do things completely out of character. Look at those situations and then re-think your answer. What is the driving force to go against virtue and pursue actions or behaviors that are atypical? I really dont have any answers to that question but feel it a more realistic discussion than saying that Wilma Flintstone will forever only buff Freds helmet.
 

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Originally posted by frivolousz21
Date a women with confidence and a strong will.

if you have ever seen King of the Hill..


Hanks wife is a good example....gratide its fictionally but there plenty of women out there....with her mindset and attitude.

and those women are the ones who from the bible on page 2 or 3 it says:


a women will be loyal to her man and he will rule over her.

I know thats not word for word.

but those women have that attitude...im not saying rule over women..but my women...yea yea give me the same ole speech will cheat on me because im a big fag...blah.


she has a strong mindset of right and wrong..and to her being loyal to me and working threw hell and high water is more important then to ever look to the other side.


keep this in mind when you date a women with any issues at all..if a women has EVEN 1 issue...then ur taking a risk.


infact...all the women I know that havent cheated...have the same riteious attitude and all believe in god.
Dude, this is a fvcking cartoon....totally irrelevent to getting laid... :down: This shyt is not that complicated....
 
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