One thing I noticed...

[Don Juanobi]

Now that Im able to meet women on a fairly regular basis, I'm starting to get to know all sorts of girls, one thing I've noticed thats common among most of them is something I find quite disturbing. I've probably met close to 2 dozen women in the past year, and almost all of them have a story about them being raped or attacked at one point in their life. If not, they know friends who have been attacked. This blows my mind as I had no idea such occurances were so common. How pathetic these creatures must be to resort to such behaviour.. The worst part is, almost all of the girls bottle it up and wont press charges against their assailants, or even talk about it until years after.

No wonder there are soo many screwed up chicks running around, and what is causing these guys to resort to violence in order to feed their sexual urge?

I am now convinced there is virtue in a life of chastity, I think society went wrong somewhere with this 'sexual freedom' movement thats producing these type of ppl.

I also think, that maybe being a nice guy isn't so bad after all, if the alternative is to become a slave to my sexual urges, with a warped phsyci.

 

[Hirez]

Actually...

You are right...alot of violent and rough **** occurs...

That is why this is the correct place to be...if you choose to live a promiscous life and have multiple partners you should learn how to do it without resorting to violence and "Dirty" tactics and this is where you learn how to do that ****...

 

[stormwriter]

Oh, just so you know, if you are trying to date these girls, and throughout the normal course of conversation, they are comfortable enough telling you that they've been raped etc, then they probably see you as "nice guy" or "friend" i.e, "emotional tampon."
If a girl liked you, and wanted to date you, she would be on her best behavior, not telling you about how she was raped.

 

[Hirez]

Actually...

I have to disagree with you...one of the articles I had published on SoSuave.com last year was titled something like "Be Her Therapist"....I detailed the strategic use of having her reveal her deep emotional problems as a way of taking over her mind...

Now it is not for everyone...and if you use it wrong...you could have a crazy chick on your hands...

But if she is comfortable telling you that...then you have probably touched her deeply and you should utilize that to your advantage...

 

[iqqi]

yes, this is good that you brought this up here. women go through ALOT. i know a lot of men on this site think women have no problems, they just create problems, but women go through sh!t you could never imagine.

and there is a common misconception here that if a woman tells you personal things that you are AFC and being used, headed for LJBF zone, blah blah, blah...

the truth is that if she is telling you these things, it is either because she feels comfortable with you, or she can't stop herself (that happens with women all the time). either way it creates rapport, it is up to you on how to use that.

if you are all androgynous, there is a good chance that you will be just a friend. but if she liked you to start, then this is not going to make her not like you! but it might make her freak out when she is alone, like "oh my god, he probaly thinks this that or the other" and her defenses may pop up creating one of the godforbidding shields you all hate so much.

so it all depends on if there was attraction between you two to start with, and how you handle the info thrown at you.

 

[squirrels]

You know, I think what it is is that society forces both men and women to repress their "naughty" desires...women to avoid seeming like sluts, and men to avoid "offending" women or ending up with sexual harassment charges.

The reason rape and such occurs is BECAUSE we repress this. Just because we're aware of sexuality and it's represented freely in the media does NOT make us a sexually FREE culture. While sexual intercourse is no longer a taboo, the sexual drive that makes us WANT intercourse is more repressed than ever.

This is why it's so important to be comfortable and assertive when approaching women...cuz sooner or later nature's going to get its way. If you don't work with it, it's going to be something unpleasant.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

if women were raped they should take the guy to court - if they know who he is - and put his ass behind bars - alot of rapes r done by girls who know the perpetrator - but i think many dont press charges because they probably did a koby - she said yes then he went at it like a champ and rough and she didnt like the total domination and told him to stop -- well to late hon - take it llike the wh@re that u r -

some women dont press charges out of fear but in many cases they know it was not truly rape and that their slutty perversions r to blame and that they brought it upon themdelves by fvcking whoever they please and sometimes they get disrespected or should i say respected like the slut that they r -

 

[Don Ronny]

You know what is even more disturbing? The amount of incest that goes on in society. I know tons of people, both guys and girls who have been molested by an uncle/cousin/father.

Really sick sh!t. Makes me wanna puke that there are so many monsters in this world. Makes you wonder what the hell is going on in this "civilization" we´ve created...

Very personal topic for me since I have gone through this myself. Never told anyone but I lost my virginity to my cousin when I was 10. She was 19 and used to be my babysitter..one day she literally attacked me. I was messed up in the head for years and I can understand why these people dont ever want to come forward. The shame is too great and part of you almost feels responsible that it happened.

What makes me angriest of all is that if you are caught with drugs, you get like 10 years in the slammer. But molest your own kin and you are scott-free in a couple of years MAX. Fvcked up world we live in, but what ya gonna do?

 

[THA REALNESS]

Yeah i've noticed that too almost every girl says that she had some weird sexual encounter or ' i felt as if he raped me' type of tale when bad -mouthing theyre ex's .


That's some scary **** .It gives me the Heezy -Jznits.I start to look at them in a different light.


I agree with Rican Lover ,it's not like having a phukking car accident or getting into a fight ..it's suspect to me charges of rape a long time after **** occures and it is usually bull**** or it comes out at after a break up.. i'm saying women report credit cards and cell-phones as stolen property the minute they can't find it but they wait YEARS after a rape case?

 

[iqqi]

Originally posted by THA REALNESS
i'm saying women report credit cards and cell-phones as stolen property the minute they can't find it but they wait YEARS after a rape case?

i dunno, maybe being raped is more emotionally shocking and fcuked than stolen cell phones?

 

[THA REALNESS]

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[Don Juanobi]

Originally posted by squirrels
You know, I think what it is is that society forces both men and women to repress their "naughty" desires...women to avoid seeming like sluts, and men to avoid "offending" women or ending up with sexual harassment charges.

The reason rape and such occurs is BECAUSE we repress this. Just because we're aware of sexuality and it's represented freely in the media does NOT make us a sexually FREE culture. While sexual intercourse is no longer a taboo, the sexual drive that makes us WANT intercourse is more repressed than ever.

This is why it's so important to be comfortable and assertive when approaching women...cuz sooner or later nature's going to get its way. If you don't work with it, it's going to be something unpleasant.

I totally dissagree. Society pushes sex ALL the time. Sending out messages like 'if your not getting laid, there's something wrong with you' and many even believe it's 'unhealthy' to control your baser instincts.
Now what you have are a bunch of hormone crazed teens that are told "HAVE SEX" through TV, magazines, movies, even video games, as they go through puberty. This is not a healthy message to be giving these young kids. It promotes reckless behaviour over calculated decisions.
Instead of encouraging teens to make a rational decision, we get all these messages saying we gotta be getting laid daily!
I know many guys who are obsessed with getting *****. I mean obsessed with it. This is not from a result of him being a virgin
Go watch some porn on the internet, it's FULL of rape fantasy. Society has somewhat removed the taboo from rape.

Years back it was unheard of for a woman to be promiscuous, now days, if a woman has 10 partners in her life time.. she's probably overwieght, because thats a pretty low number. We do not repress anything sexual anymore.

 

[iqqi]

there will always be society and followers of society. and there will always be good and bad influences from society. and there will always be some who are mindless and some who own their own minds.

and it's like that, and that's the way it is.

 

[DEKKA]

im going to say something about this that popped into my mind as soon as i read the initial thread. you guys probably arent going to like it but theres a hint of truth behind it. in a day and age where certain issues arent discussed because they are extremely taboo (or politically incorrect), im going to throw this out there.

im like the guy who said that hes heard lots of girls talk about being raped. in fact i was AMAZED at how many women have told me they were. it really got me suspicious in a way because every one that told me she was didnt really seem that upset about it. like on tv when you see a girl get raped or whatever its like this huge emotional trauma... but every girl thats told me she was raped almost seemed indifferent about it... or almost like she half consented then it turned too rough but it was too late?

first. rape in the sense or the word as it has come to be known is wrong, illegal, and hurtful. i think any guy who would abuse his power and take advantage of a woman should be shot... seriously.

but.

it seems theres another dimension to this whole "rape" thing.

i think theres something i like to call pseudo-rape... or semi-concentual sex.

ive talked to lots of women who say they wanted a man to "take" them. usually its a man that they have already built a significant relationship with and are very attracted to (basically they would fvck the guy if they got the chance). "rape fantasys" are not at all uncommon among women. again though, im not talking about some nasty guy beating you and raping you in an alley or something.

by no means all, but i think a good deal of the women that say they were "raped" weren't raped in the full sense of the word.

 

[DEKKA]

to add to the post above. i think guys and girls are a little bit different in many ways.

but.

to illustrate my point.

if a very attractive woman tried to "rape" me, i definitly wouldnt be to traumatized to damn much now would i. lol.

i dont think guys and girls are too much different in this respect, but i think society has put quite a spin on the word rape. it is used quite out of context in many cases.

 

[iqqi]

Originally posted by DEKKA
but every girl thats told me she was raped almost seemed indifferent about it...

could be the only way they are able to deal with it....

this is excerpted from a website, maybe will give you some insight on how females think:

"Girls must be assertive and say "no" when they mean "no." Girls are often raised to treasure other people's feelings and that means not hurting them. Sadly, this also leads some girls to stay quiet even if they are in danger.
Assertiveness is different from rudeness (which is aggressive). Being assertive simply means saying directly and clearly what you mean. A simple "no" can resolve most unwanted touches. You could say:

"Stop, please. I'm not enjoying this."
"Get your hands off me."
"I don't want to have sex."
"I said "no" and I mean "no"."
Another difficulty is that many girls feel they should be in a relationship, mostly because of peer pressure or because of strong messages left by teen television shows. "Having a boyfriend is cool!" This might even keep them in an abusive relationship. Just remember: being single is great too!

How do you know if your relationship is a good one? In a healthy relationship, your boyfriend will be a good listener and you will feel free to talk about your feelings with him. You will feel like his equal and not like his subordinate. You will laugh and have fun together and he will make you feel good about yourself. If you have a misunderstanding, he will want to work things out with you.

Signs of a bad relationship include jealousy or possessiveness, feeling bad about yourself, criticism or being picked on. In a bad relationship, your boyfriend often ignores or interrupts you. You don't trust your boyfriend and he may try to control you. He may even pressure you into staying in the relationship. He could be violent or frequently display anger. He may show contempt towards women such as calling them "*****es" or saying things like "they should stay at home." He may be nice to you when you're alone but a jerk when his friends are around. If he forces you to have sex, get out of the relationship (at the very least. You should also talk to the police about the assault). "

 

[DEKKA]

honestly iqqi, have you ever had a rape fantasy?

 

[DEKKA]

i know i have =P

 

[iqqi]

some more info:

Acquaintance Rape
Over 80% of rape victims know their attackers. As children you were warned not to talk to strangers. The fact is you are more likely to be assaulted by someone you know: a friend, date, ex-boyfriend, classmate, neighbor, relative or employer.

Acquaintance rape and date rape are more common than left-handedness or heart attacks or alcoholism. (Warshaw, 1988)

Acquaintance rape is using physical force, emotional bargaining, blackmail or mind games to force sexual intercourse, fondling, kissing, holding ... any sexual contact forced on you by a stranger or someone you know. If it is against your will, it is against the law.

One of the most common types of acquaintance rape is date rape. If you are a female between the ages of 16-24, you run the greatest risk of being raped by a date. The use of alcohol or drugs also increases your risk. In one study, 74% of the men and 55% of the women had been drinking or using drugs prior to the sexual assault.

Date rapes often occur as a result of misunderstood sex role behaviors and/or communication styles. Males who regard sex as "scoring" and are sexually aggressive often believe "no" can be changed to "yes" with a little more persuasion or force. Females frequently say "no" too softly or indirectly because they don't want to hurt feelings or jeopardize a relationship.

Realistically, those closest to you can easily take advantage of and assault you.

Our Reactions as a Victim
Victims of sexual violence experience many different feelings, such as:

confusion
denial
shock
fear
self-blame
embarrassment
helplessness
Victims of date or acquaintance rape often have:

fear of guilt and responsibility
concerns about their ability to make good judgments about people
difficulty accepting what happened as rape
All these feelings and reactions are normal. You need not hide your feelings or pretend they are not there. Working through them is the first step toward coping with the crisis.

No one asks or deserves to be raped! There is help...someone you can talk with, who will listen, who understands.

from this website

 

[iqqi]

Originally posted by DEKKA
honestly iqqi, have you ever had a rape fantasy?

rape is against your will.

i have all kinds of "dominate me" fantasies and the such, but they are wanted. not unwanted.