"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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one question how reliable is the site...hot or not...

iturbide1981

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i am just saying i heard about it here...like 3 days ago..and its so cool..so far they gave a 8.7 but you know i think i saw a thread...where they gave you a standarised to calculate your number..better...(ok its not that i am into myself because i know self confidence is the one that decides if you get the girl or not)
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I never really knew if I was good looking or not, so I went on there and I scored a 7.8 in looks, so I guess I am kinda good looking then. I think it's pretty reliable if you get alot of votes.
 

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you think so..

i mean theres a lot of frustrated people out there...i mean whos voting..no i am for real...you know like when they bring the votes in after and election...and there always talking about a margin of error..like a
9.3 could really be a 8.1 i dont know
 

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Hot or Not is not reliable at all when it comes to the babes ratings, after I saw this post I had a look at it and rated about 30 babes before I came back to write this.
Of those 30 babes my own score was only higher than the average with one of them whom I gave an 8 and all others combined gave her a 7.
Some of the scores were very inconsistent I thought, one babe was given 9.9 by 700 plus people, this was too high in my opinion, I gave her a 7.
Two other babes one I gave a 2 was rated a 9 by them and another that I rated as being a 3 they gave 9.2.
The babes were given much higher scores than they should have got given their physical appearance in the photos that I saw.
I never looked at any of the dudes photos or ratings, but the babes ratings were not a true reflection of how hot they really were.
 

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iturbide1981 said:
they gave you a standarised to calculate your number..better
You're probably referring to my post. I said that the hotornot rating scale is different from the traditional rating scale. An average rating at hotornot is 5 (or slightly above 5, I think). An average rating using the DJ scale is more like 7 for the youthful population. A big chunk of girls fall between 6 and 8, (moreso than fall between 4 and 6).

So if you're young and hotornot tells you "You're hotter than 50% of the guys on this site" and gives you a 5.3 or whatever, that actually equates to about a 7 in the regular framework. If it gives you a 7, you're probably about an 8 or so.

Also, you should think about the fact that attractive people are more likely to put their pics on a site like that than ugly people.

If you get an 8.7 then you're probably very good-looking. You need to wait until you get about 150+ votes, tho, before you get all ****y about it.



Hot or Not is not reliable at all when it comes to the babes ratings, after I saw this post I had a look at it and rated about 30 babes before I came back to write this.
imo, they tend to rate girls higher than they deserve if they are excessively skinny. But that's not just a problem with the site; it's a bias among the general male population. We have an obsession with skeletons nowadays.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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flows101 said:
You Dont Need Looks To Get Chicks!

High Self-esteem = Loads Of Women.
Dude, you're from the moon. Women are just as shallow as men and rate us "5,6,7,8" etc or "fuckable, non-fuckable"

Anybody who says otherwise is hot and hasn't had to deal with it, in denial or inexperienced.

Let's turn this into another looks-matter debate!:moon:
 

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Serialized3 said:
Dude, you're from the moon. Women are just as shallow as men and rate us "5,6,7,8" etc or "fuckable, non-fuckable"

Anybody who says otherwise is hot and hasn't had to deal with it, in denial or inexperienced.

Let's turn this into another looks-matter debate!:moon:
Na man they aren't quite as shallow. But they are shallow...otherwise there'd be no need for this site when you think about it.
 

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L777 said:
Na man they aren't quite as shallow. But they are shallow...otherwise there'd be no need for this site when you think about it.
Haha, I suppose you're right, but that's mostly because a lot of guys are shallow as hell. So then women are slightly less so :D. But just barely.

Anyways, the reason I said that is that I've had a lot of female friends before, and we've had some pretty candid talks from everything from looks to **** size. Sometimes they comment on how "hot" a passing guy is. They admit that they won't date a guy unless he's good looking enough for them, or has a car, or has white teeth, or is taller than 6', or whatever silly reason is in their head. But the fact remains is that looks DO matter to women. Thats why most of the time you see guys out with girls that are about as attractive or ugly as they are.

Would you date a girl that's not good looking enough for you? Probably not. (I do because I'm not shallow, but that's just me)

Although it is quite easy to become more attractive to women. Work out, get some stylish clothes, a haircut that matches your personality, and bam a 5 becomes a 7.

It's all been said before.
 

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Chicks that show lots of skin get better scores too. I've seen some 5s that got 7+ just because they were in their skivvies.

It scored me a 7.6 - 8.1 depending on the pic I posted, and that jibes pretty well with what I figured I'd be - decent but no George Clooney.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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bigjohnson said:
Chicks that show lots of skin get better scores too. I've seen some 5s that got 7+ just because they were in their skivvies.

It scored me a 7.6 - 8.1 depending on the pic I posted, and that jibes pretty well with what I figured I'd be - decent but no George Clooney.
pretty much goes with anyone,lol. i find if you post a ab pic, you get a higher score unless your face is just heavenly.
 

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When you ask how reliable it is. It's kind of hard to answer that. Hot or Not and other "rate my pic" sites depend on your selection of picture(s). Generally if you have a decent looking face you'll be in the 7-9 range. Anything above a 9 usually means you have at least a decent face, a nice body, and you're willing to show it in your pic. These are just general rules, there are exceptions.
 

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I'm one of the dudes who has NO idea how physically attractive he is.

I have a great body now(hard fvcking work), and I scored an 8.4 on HotOrNot with a weird picture and 250 votes. Of course it was just a face shot...

Nobody has come right out and told me I'm hot...I've gotten cute acouple of times(3), and way back in like grade 8 I was called ugly, but thats only because I had terrible self-esteem and dismal hygeine.

Question: For you guys who would call yourself Hot or Attractive...What makes you think so?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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