"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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One of the Mysteries of the Universe (to me)

DJnoob

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hello, my story is one of those "i work with this chick" type stories. I am sure this hasnt been covered here yet, but here it is..

Me and this chick work in the same "cubicle", she's an 8. I used all the dj moves on her, kino - rapport -etc.. everything executed flawlessly.

This is what really bothers me and puzzles me:

An employee from another department walks over ot our department to borrow some things. Then when she saw him , she asked him in a low toned voice " did you calll me earlier?

I was working behind her facing the other way and I over heard her asking him that.

As soon as I heard that, my mind this voice whispering in my head and the following thoughts of denial started running in my head:

"they talk on the phone already? what's going on here? Is this how its supposed to be? Did he ask for her number or did she ask for his number?
This guy is one of the alpha males in the store who only goes for HOT HOT chicks but she's not HOT HOT plus she has a 2 year old kid.. What in the world! That's impossible, he would never go for a chick like her.. AND THEY ALREADY KNOW EACH OTHERS PHONE NUMBER? And I don't know her's?"


Another situation:

She tells me that she was hanging out with *lets call him carlos*a fellow coworker, he other day.

Again,As soon as I heard that, this voice started whispering in my head and the following thoughts of denial started running in my head:

"WTF, did she just say, they were hanging out the other night? Drinking? But he has a gf already.... I don't understand.. its possible that their just friends but...I wonder who asked for whose number... Did he just ask for her number and asked her if she wanted to go out for a drink? or did she ask for his number?....hmmm... she just told me that this "carlos" guy isnt atractive and that he's a nice guy last week.. yeah, their just friends... but still, did he ask for her number or did she ask for his number? argghhh...but she knows that carlos has a Girl friend though.. arghhh"

So HERE IS THE DEAL:

For you guys here who have girl friends as in just FRIENDS, how did you start hanging out with them as just FRIENDS (no sex or anything, but just as friends.. similiar to how you have guy friends), Did you ask for their number or did those chicks ask for your number? ETc etc
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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flyinshark

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Me and this chick work in the same "cubicle", she's an 8. I used all the dj moves on her, kino - rapport -etc.. everything executed flawlessly.
Oh Yeah? Weird, but it seemed to have no effect.

For you guys here who have girl friends as in just FRIENDS, how did you start hanging out with them as just FRIENDS (no sex or anything, but just as friends.. similiar to how you have guy friends), Did you ask for their number or did those chicks ask for your number? ETc etc
Ok, so now u're acting as you just wanna be friends with her? Why did u try all the DJ techniques on her in the first place if u just wanted to be friends?

Admit you like her and ask for advice on how to turn a friend into a lover, and then maybe you'll get more answers. But then again, you'll be told that this has been discussed over and over again and your thread might be closed.

If you feel i misinterpreted you, then restate your question more clearly and u shall get more responses.
 

Lost In Translation

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she has a 2 year old kid

think twice bro

you work next to her

THINK THREE TIMES

imagine the drama

"WTF, did she just say, they were hanging out the other night? Drinking? But he has a gf already.... I don't understand

CARLOS is a PIMP

she just told me that this "carlos" guy isnt atractive and that he's a nice guy last week

he is not good looking and still gets his way with the ladies ?

CARLOS is a DON JUAN

but she knows that carlos has a Girl friend though

and Carlos knows she has a 2 year old kid

and wh0res NEED SEX

For you guys here who have girl friends as in just FRIENDS, how did you start hanging out with them as just FRIENDS (no sex or anything, but just as friends.. similiar to how you have guy friends), Did you ask for their number or did those chicks ask for your number? ETc etc

ok stop right there. i see where you are going. you are on the wrong track.

you are thinking Carlos pulled a move and became HER FRIEND

and got her number and thats it

and thats what you aspire too ? to be an AFC ?

no no no. Carlos is a PIMP. he got her number went out for drinks and F*CKED HER. she wanted it that way.

no dinner. no walks on the beach. no poems.

alcohol and then BAM. sex.

no commitment. no strings. no drama.

This guy is one of the alpha males in the store who only goes for HOT HOT chicks but she's not HOT HOT plus she has a 2 year old kid.. What in the world! That's impossible, he would never go for a chick like her.. AND THEY ALREADY KNOW EACH OTHERS PHONE NUMBER? And I don't know her's?"

he only f*cks all the HB9's

he has a REPUTATION as a LADIES MAN

you want sex ladies ? call CARLOS

single mum NEEDS SOME RELEASE

so she calls in A PROFESSIONAL

why he is f*cking her ?

maybe he has f*cked every other woman in the office and has worked his way down to the HB8 section

CARLOS IS MY HERO !



Lost In Translation :D

**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**

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EFFORT

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You need to become carlos's friend!

Hang out with him, go out and get drinks, buy him a drink, be an awesome wing man, heh be his b*tch do what u have to do to watch this guy interact with women.

The value of having a guy friend thats good with women is HUGE. 1million times more valuable than this girl your freaking out over.
 

Lost In Translation

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Quote - EFFORT
You need to become carlos's friend

best advice i wish i had suggested that :)


Lost In Translation :D

**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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belividere

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It sounds like you are very jealous of these two. Heres a couple of things that you should keep in mind.

All the dj techniques in the world become useless if you never close. Do not expect her to throw her phone number at you instead you have to ask yourself.

The second thing you should keep in mind is that when you start dating good looking girls they will always be getting hit on. If you're insecure and jealous about it you wont get to far.
 
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