"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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One chick just got out of a 2 year LTR other girl's going abroad

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OK, the last non-final class meeting ended and I wasn't able to do anything. Since the next time I'm going to see any of them will be next week and there won't be any time to talk.

I've officially given up with them.

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I'm talking to two girls in my summer school class.

One chick just got out of a 2 year long relationship a couple of weeks ago. Her boyfriend has been cheating on her. I'm not sure if she's ready to date other guys or if that even matters. I have no idea what angle to pursue her with. At this point I'd just like to sleep with her but a relationship isn't out of the question.

The other girl is leaving to study abroad in two weeks. Obviously a relationship is out of the question. Having sex with her before she leaves would be awesome. Though since that seems improbable, I'd settle for any intimate contact. Oddly enough she's started giving me rides in her car to the bus stop which was her idea. I invited her to lunch last time I saw her, but she said that she was too tired and wanted to go home to sleep.

Is there any way to get either of these girls?

BTW: My other thread is abandoned and I made a mistake by bringing it up.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I said improbable because I recognize that it will be difficult than with a girl in a 'normal' situation. I really don't know how to get a girl to sleep with me within two weeks and then she's leaving the country.

The other girl could be a rebound situation that I don't know how to maximize.
 

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Maxtro said:
I invited her to lunch last time I saw her, but she said that she was too tired and wanted to go home to sleep.
You and your damn lunch dates. Try going for a drink instead! I think it is Rescue Mission who is always saying "food = sleep, alcohol = sex" (I know you don't like RR, but that advice is solid).

Do you have either of their phone numbers? If not, that is your first step. But I'll assume you do. Call em up, get them over to your place, open up the wine, and let the magic begin.
 

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So you're saying just to ignore their situations?

Trying to get their numbers is easy. I'm just worrying about the step after that. I'd love to get them to my place, but "how" is the question.

BTW, I love lunch dates because they are so easy. We're both already together so the logistics are very simple. "Hey, you hungry, lets go eat." But it's too friendly.

For "real dates" it's much harder as I got to get her to go somewhere with me sometime in the future. Much more planning involved. Every girl I seem to meet doesn't live in the same city that the college is in like I do. So one of us ends up having a 20 minute drive to meet.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Yes, ignore their situations.

They are in your class. Maybe have them meet you at your place to study. And then afterward, ask her if she wants to watch a movie or something.

Or maybe study with her at a coffee shop close to your place, and then tell her about this great movie you have at your place.

Or just go to the coffee shop without the studying.

Or go for drinks somewhere near your place to celebrate finishing the course.

The possibilities are endless! The key is to isolate, and escalate.

Escalate shamelessly. And don't be so outcome dependent. The less you care, the more will happen.
 
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