"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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once upon a time..

vato

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hahah the title sucks, I knoww...

I'd seen her in the neighbourhood and thought to myself "she's cute." I've seen her friends check me out too.

So, I take this 10 week course. The first day of class was starting later in the evening. My friend was already in school since morning because he had to take another class. After he's done he calls me up and says:

"yo, get your ass to school"

I look at my watch and reply:
"hell nah man! The class starts in 4 hours! I ain't comin now"

"yo, I'm with these two chicks.. they're in the same class as us"

I ask him:
"Oh yeah? They look good??"

"Hell yeah man! you know they look good!"

"I'm on my way!!"

So I get to school and I can't find my friend. I call him up and ask "where you at? I'll beat yo ass if you were lyin about those girls!" Apparently he had gone for lunch with the girls. So now I'm waiting for them to come back.

Finally when they get to school I see them. Surprise, surpise one of the girls is the one I'd seen in my neighbourhood. I slap hands with my friend "what up?" Turn to the cutie and introduce myself "Vato" and shake her hand firmly. Her friend just passed by without even saying hi. I didn't care but I noticed her stuck-up-ness.

So we go upstairs and I tell the cutie "you know? I've seen you before" and she replies "yeah, I've seen you too. :)" We click right away.

My friend told me "during lunch I told her about you, that a lot of chicks dig you and she told me that she has seen you before and thinks you're hot"

10 weeks pass. During this time - she takes my number, adds me on msn, we eat lunch together, she gets jealous and stops talkin to me for 2 weeks for me not giving her attention after another friend starts the class.

I didn't have any intentions of keeping contact with her when the course was finished after 10 weeks. Because I started to like her and I thought she wasn't interested.

A week after the course was finished I saw her in a cafeteria. She asked: "why don't you ever text or call?! I knew you were going to change after we finished that course" I acted calm n cool "I been busy" and we talked for more 30 sec until I get back to my friends. I text her and the flirting starts.

We text each other for some days and after a few days I call her and set up a date. She was the one always asking "when are we meeting, when will we see each other?" But I don't know, she flakes the last second. I act cool and don't show that I'm disappointed. We decide to meet up a week later.

We kept texting and a couple days later my birthday came up. She bought me a gift. When the day of the date came she flaked AGAIN! I decided to next her because it seemed like she was playing with me. She says meet me in the evening so I can give you the gift. I thought "no, she flaked for the second time and had no good reason for it. I'm not her b*tch." so I said to her "I can't accept your gift" She texted me for 3 days and begged me to take the gift, but as stubborn as I can be, I said "no."

I was trying to next her but she kept texting me. I liked her so I gave her another chance.

She text me "Listen, do wanna go for a walk?"
me: "yeah, I been home studying all day, a walk sounds good"
her: "Alrite, come to my job. Then we can walk back from there. I'm afraid of walking alone. I finish work at 9 pm"

Her work is 10 minutes away from me. (I made her get me some ice cream since she works as a bartender in a resturant/bar.) So we took the walk and I kept it light and fun, made her laugh and stuff.

I set up another date for the third time and if she flaked this time then I'd definitely next. We didn't text each other until the day we where supposed to meet. Since she didn't text, I sent her this at 2pm "what time were we supposed to meet today?"
she says "why didn't you text earlier?"
me: "because if you've said yes then I expect you to know that we're meeting today"
her: "you didn't text this morning or yesterday so I thought you didn't want to meet"
me: "if I wouldn't want to meet you, I would've told you"

so we couldn't meet because of misunderstanding.

Next day she texted me and we took a walk again. This time I did more kino and she complied ass hell. I felt that I could've kissed her but didn't take the chance.

I called her 2 days later and we talked. She had told me before that she's a virgin. When we talked on the phone, she told me that she sleeps over a guy-friends house sometimes. I was shocked when she told me this. So I said "haha admit it, it's your boyfriend" and she gets defensive "no it's not, it's one of my best guy friend....." me: "listen, if I'm sleeping over a girl friends house then we're more than friends" she says "he's my best guy friend, I've known him for 5 years, he's together with my best-girl-friend." I ironically said: "yeeaahhh I believe you" she said "no you don't." That sh*t pissed me off, she's not supposed to be tell me that stuff, felt like she's playing games with me, trying to make me jealous. So I tell her "I got things to do, bye"

So I go online, delete her from msn. decide to next her for real this time. but it hurts because I liked her.

Two days go by and she texted me again. "what are you doing?" me: "on my way to the gym, you?". "Yeah alrite. nothing just sitting" I never respond back to her stupid text.

NExt day I regret deleting her from msn because it felt immature so I add her again. 3 days have gone and we haven't spoken. And now when I think about it, I like her, I'm not sure if I'm over reacting over her guy friend situation. she said it's her best girl friends boy friend. But I don't know, feels like she's playing with me. Should I move on or should I give her another chance? Is she playing with me?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Kirro

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Why is it that so many guys only work on ONE chick? Haven't you learned that you always talk to more than one girl? You've become outcome dependent which is a like speeding in a car down one-itus turnpike.

This is what you do. Talk to other chicks starting now. Spin some more plates & if she comes around cool, if she don't cool.
 

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vato said:
So, I take this 10 week course. The first day of class was starting...

10 weeks pass. During this time - she takes my number, adds me on msn, we eat lunch together, she gets jealous and stops talkin to me for 2 weeks for me not giving her attention after another friend starts the class.

A week after the course was finished I saw her in a cafeteria. She asked: "why don't you ever text or call?!

We text each other for some days and after a few days I call her and set up a date.

We decide to meet up a week later.

We kept texting and a couple days later my birthday came up. She bought me a gift. When the day of the date came she flaked AGAIN!

She texted me for 3 days and begged me to take the gift, but as stubborn as I can be, I said "no."

Next day she texted me and we took a walk again.

I called her 2 days later and we talked.

Two days go by and she texted me again.

NExt day I regret deleting her from msn because it felt immature so I add her again. 3 days have gone and we haven't spoken.





Why in the BLUE HELL have you been letting this go on for so long? Are you kidding me? I bolded the post for the timeline, and if I'm correct, this has been going on for pretty much 3 to 4 months???
And NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING has happened.

WHY?

It should be done by now. You've let this go on for WAY TOO LONG without trying anything. She flaked on you for your BIRTHDAY. And you're still texting her???

You deserve everything that's come your way because you clearly are a glutton for punishment. End this NOW. Don't contact her again. She's clearly in it for the attention and nothing else. And if memory serves correct, you've been posting about this chica for a while now and you had gotten advice about her already...

Why do you keep pursuing this then???

EJECT.
 

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If I wrote this thread, since I live in the Southeast United States, I'd have the title "Ya'll ain't gonna believe this sh*t!"

But OP, why the f**k did you spend all this time on this ONE goddamn girl? You hardly escalated and not only that, she flakes on your b-day? Oh, hell no! Man the f**k up! Sometimes you gotta retreat to win, this being one of them times.

She was using you for attention.

Judge nismo-4 and the jury has found you guilty of first degree oneitis and failure to escalate at jump street. This carries a fine of blue balls, being used for only attention, a platonic relationship, and a week in Wussyborough, Massachusetts. If you spin more plates, you will find out that she wasn't all that anyway, and of course this case gets dismissed.

Case closed. Post some results.
 

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nismo-4 said:
If I wrote this thread, since I live in the Southeast United States, I'd have the title "Ya'll ain't gonna believe this sh*t!"

But OP, why the f**k did you spend all this time on this ONE goddamn girl? You hardly escalated and not only that, she flakes on your b-day? Oh, hell no! Man the f**k up! Sometimes you gotta retreat to win, this being one of them times.

She was using you for attention.

Judge nismo-4 and the jury has found you guilty of first degree oneitis and failure to escalate at jump street. This carries a fine of blue balls, being used for only attention, a platonic relationship, and a week in Wussyborough, Massachusetts. If you spin more plates, you will find out that she wasn't all that anyway, and of course this case gets dismissed.

Case closed. Post some results.
haha yeah that wouldve been a better title.
no no she didnt flake on my b-day. she just bought me a b-day gift which she was going to give me when we met. I had never planed on meeting on my birthday.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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vato

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Kailex said:
Why in the BLUE HELL have you been letting this go on for so long? Are you kidding me? I bolded the post for the timeline, and if I'm correct, this has been going on for pretty much 3 to 4 months???
And NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING has happened.

WHY?

It should be done by now. You've let this go on for WAY TOO LONG without trying anything. She flaked on you for your BIRTHDAY. And you're still texting her???

You deserve everything that's come your way because you clearly are a glutton for punishment. End this NOW. Don't contact her again. She's clearly in it for the attention and nothing else. And if memory serves correct, you've been posting about this chica for a while now and you had gotten advice about her already...

Why do you keep pursuing this then???

EJECT.
she's the one who keeps pursuing. I've tried to next her 3 times after she flaked but she always came back. I took that as she's still interested. so I thought the game is still on.
 

vatoloco

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vato said:
she's the one who keeps pursuing. I've tried to next her 3 times after she flaked but she always came back. I took that as she's still interested. so I thought the game is still on.
Unfortunately my good tocayo, she keeps coming back... to play with you. She knows that if she gives you a little "something", you'll go back to giving her the attention she so desperately needs.

Next her and never contact her again romantically. If you see her on the street, just a quick "Hey" and "Later" will suffice...
 
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