"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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on making plans...(long)

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So I have been hanging out with a girl I knew in highschool. Hadnt talked to her for 2 years until recently. We have hung out 3 times in the past 3 weeks, once a week. When we talk about making plans, she always says "whenever, its up to you". So i have asked her eachtime, and she always says yes. We kissed the last couple of times we hung out, a lot of making out the last time (last week).

She is kind of playing a lot of dj games though, which is frustrating for me. The only time i talk to her, besides when we hang out, is online, (which i know is stupid, and im going to stop doing it). I just feel weird calling her and chatting. What should i do??

A bit of our convo from earlier:

her: welll im around every day this week!
me: ok ill see you everyday this week
her: alright!! sounds like a plann lol
me: haha we would prbly kill eachother
her: noooo i would just kill YOUUUU
me: but you lovvvvvvveeeeeeee being with me...remember?
her: o yesss how could i forgett
me: hey dont be sarcastic...you do have fun!!!!
her: i know i do!
me: good well maybe you can bring it by one night this week or somthin (her new car)
her: yea def
me: hey what was that movie i wanted to watch? the one you had
her: ooo crash!
me: you can bring it for me
her: sure
me: if your nice i might let you stay and watch too
her: im always nicee!!O:)
me: well i might just let you stay then!!
her: i rubbed your back....that was like reallly nice of me!!
me: yeaaaa but plus you REALLY WANTED to! haha...and also i would like another
her: well maybe if YOUR nice you can get another!
me: well im alwyas nice too right
her: sometimess!
me: haha well im sore so ill have to get one from someone...
her: well im sore too!!! they had me doing hard labor at work yesterday!
me: hahahhaa poor you, your not hinting at a massage are you?
her: .............
me: ??????
her: maybee
me: i dunno if i should do that for you
me: you may fall in love with me and i would just have to break your heart!!
her: haha oo is that soo!!!??
me: yes it is
her: well i guess you better not then!
me: haha well you sound like you need one so i see what i can do
her: and you say im ****y!!
me: yep!!

now talking about 4th of july plans:
me: what you doin for the fourth anythign good
her: honestly i dont even know yet.....(friends name) had mantioned she was having a little party so i told her i would stop by
me: oooh thats cool
her: what about you?? any plans?
me: kid i work with is havi a party on his house boat and at the beach igguess sounds pretty fun so i might go there
her: o that sounds like fun
me: i was actually gonna call you and say come if you want but sounds like you already got plans
her: oooo i seee
me: yeah but if u feel like it let me know it should be fun
her: so wheres this boat?
me: (city)
her: ooo nicee
me: yeaa ill talk to you about it closer to then so you can see what your plans are or whatever
her: sounds like a plan!
me: ill probly forget so remind me haha
her: ooo pleaseee!! im not reminding youuuu!!!! haha
me: why????
her: if you wanna talk to me about it you will....im not going to remind you to talk to me about it! lol!!
me: woahhhhh
her: haha
her: whatttttttt
me: well i offered...im not gonna chase ya!!
her: well im not going to chase you to remind me
me: well i offered for you to come...so if you wanted to go you would say yes before then!!!
me: hows that missy?
her: hahaha
me: am i right or am i right?
her: umm i dont really get it....
me: i was just saying if you want to come you will say yes before then...if not then you wont...right?

Basically she was kind of avoiding answering that question, and i feel like iam going to be chasing her if i keep asking. I feel kind of stupid because i dont want to date her really, just fvck her. So i probly shouldnt take her to a party. But should i ask her again later this week and see whatsup? I was just thinking dont mention it at all to her, and forget about it, call her the day after the 4th to make plans for during the week. If i call and ask her to come on the 4th, ill look lke a wimp, but i know she wont bring it up again. Any suggestions?? Sorry for the longggg post!
 

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I like that C&F going on there, the part about the movie is golden.

And im no master DJ, but it sounds to me like she wants to fvck.
 

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Its hard to communicate with a computer nonverbally. Hell I went through the dialogue for your fourth of july plans and got two different interpretations of some of the things she said. Get her on the phone for plans.
 

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I drop C&F on her all the time, she loves it. ITs VERY difficult to talk with her on MSN, especially becuase a lot of times she has some C&F of her own. Basically I feel that she was blowing off my 4th of July invitation, so I do not think that I should ask her again, as I would look weak, what do you guys think? I don't even know why i said that to her, as I do not want to do the whole "date" thing, just trying to fvck. What do you think the next move should be? Should I wait till after the 4th to call her, or call and offer before then again?

Definitely no more MSN for me, I often times feel like a sucka after our convos on there and its pissing me off.

Man of Adventure: what were your interpretations?
 

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Man of Adventure: what were your interpretations?
Its more or less you could get a good or bad interpretation from the way she used oooo I seee and ooo niicce. Gauging interest is kinda rough but the rest looks ****ing good. Just get her on the phone and say "Hey, you seemed kinda confused when I talked to you about the fourth. What, have you never been on a date before?"

I know youre not into the whole dating thing but thats just to bust her balls.

From there just say "Hey, Im going here on the fourth youre more than welcome to join me. By the way if you mention that Im "Chasing You" for calling, I have a spank with your name on it."

It doesnt matter what happens....have fun with it.
 

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You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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It doesn't particularly seem like she's blowing you off for the 4th. You asked her what she was doing and she told you, then you asked her if she wanted to come to a different party.

You could try jokingly telling her something like "I really don't think you're cool enough to come to this party anyway, so it's probably better if you go to your friends"

or

"I'm not so sure I want to be seen with you at this party anyway..."
 

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Thanks for the replies. Youre right, I guess she really is not blowing me off, considering she pretty much had other plans. I wouldn't break my plans for her, so why should she do that for me?

Anyway, I decided i am not going to mention another word to her about it for a couple reasons.

1. It starts on July 3, and goes into the night of July 4, which is going to be, in my opinion, much more time than I want to spend with her.

2. This is the most important...my buddy told me there should be over 300 people at this thing, a TON of girls. This will give me a great opportunity to get some new girls, so I can spin a few plates. So i was figuring if theres going to be girls there..."Why bring sand to the beach?"

If she mentions to me about going, I would let her, but I doubt she will. As you can see from one of her responses, she expects me to do all the work. My plan is to not call her until July 5, to make plans for the following day.

Thoughts?
 

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Well she ended up calling me the other night. 4th of July came up. She told me that I never REALLY asked her, just said that I was going to. Looking back at the convo, I guess she was right. She said that is why she said "I see", and "o nice". She then said that she would like to come, that it sounds fun. Att his point I didn't care either way, so i just said fine, come. I was planning on trying to game so other chics there, but I guess I can just put in some work on her.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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