"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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on converting a female friend

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Have any of you guys tried to convert a female friend to a romance by simply treating her like a girlfriend? Flirting a lot, grabbing her hand while walking, asking her to the movies, that sort of thing? Maybe without coming out and saying you like her.

When I think about it, I've met lots of couples who were first friends before they hooked up on the romantic tip, so I know it can't be as impossible as a lot of people think. There's got to be a way to go about it. You see, I haven't truly liked a girl in quite a long time, I'm talking like 4-5 years since I've met a girl I was truly intriqued with and wanted to be with more than anything in the world. It's a rare occassion when I meet a girl I really like deep down. I know one such girl now, but I've known her for a very long time(though I only started developing strong feelings for her in the last year) and I'm stuck deep in the friends zone unfortunately.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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ok, i'm gonna avoid cursing and say this nicely because you've actually made some intelligent posts:

Read the Bible, please sir.

And while you're getting around to doing that: Don't count on success. It probably won't happen. Real men take action; they don't mess around with someone for over a year doing non-sexual activities and then try passively to manipulate them into love. I think you're probably out of luck.

Whenever you put yourself in the mindset of trying to INCREASE (rather than maintain) attraction in a woman, you're really shooting yourself in the foot. See the links below for an explanation.


http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39729
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39769
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39785
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39887
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39888
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40188
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40241
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40347
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40698
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=58363
 
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Turning a friend into a girlfriend? Just treat her like a guy friend! What you do CAN cause an effect and make her have some feelings for you.
 
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speakeasy said:
Have any of you guys tried to convert a female friend to a romance by simply treating her like a girlfriend? Flirting a lot, grabbing her hand while walking, asking her to the movies, that sort of thing? Maybe without coming out and saying you like her.

When I think about it, I've met lots of couples who were first friends before they hooked up on the romantic tip, so I know it can't be as impossible as a lot of people think. There's got to be a way to go about it. You see, I haven't truly liked a girl in quite a long time, I'm talking like 4-5 years since I've met a girl I was truly intriqued with and wanted to be with more than anything in the world. It's a rare occassion when I meet a girl I really like deep down. I know one such girl now, but I've known her for a very long time(though I only started developing strong feelings for her in the last year) and I'm stuck deep in the friends zone unfortunately.
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bro, from my experience THIS is exactly what i did to a friend of mine who i had strong feelings for.

It worked pretty smooth for me, and thats why i think most of the you cant turn your girl friend into your GIRLFRIEND threads are over exaggerated.

I think over time i have been romantically intimate (in a relationship) with so far 3 of my past female friends.

Again the only difference between a friend and a sig.other is that theres no intimacy involved with a friend whereas a relationship consists of an intimate bond.

and what you posted, IMO works the best. The whole treat her like a guy IMO is really dumb, you are already in the friend zone with her...treat her like a guy...what the hell is that gonna do but have her think of you like "brother"
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I just came across this today and it sums up some practical steps of converting female friends to lovers. It may not work in every case, but I think it's a pretty solid, concise plan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bROeffrKt2g

I think the first step is 100% correct. NEVER openly admit to this female friend that you like her. I had 2 good friends of mine try converting a girl they knew for a long time into romance. They scewed up the first step. They came right out, spilled their guts about how they have felt about her all that time, and it never worked, and made thing awkward. I have never admitted any feelings to this girl, but the thing is, she probably knows I would get with her if I could. She knows all the other guys in our social circle would jump on her as well if they ever got the chance. She's never come out and said any such thing, but it just comes across.
 
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speakeasy said:
You see, I haven't truly liked a girl in quite a long time, I'm talking like 4-5 years since I've met a girl I was truly intrigued with and wanted to be with more than anything in the world. It's a rare occasion when I meet a girl I really like deep down.
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I have the same problem with really being interested in women.

But why are you stuck in LJBF? This is a serious question. Please answer. :)

Got to get to LJBFB. Lets just be fvck buddies.
 
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