"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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randalll

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how annoyed/pissed off would you be, if the first girl you slept with came up for a nickname for you ('Rookie') and spread it around town, and now thats what some of yours and her friends call you?

would you have said anything to her about this/acted any different around her?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Juan_Man

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Well, she slept with you so what does that make her? No one really cares as long as you got the ass. Two years ago when I was still a virgin, I would have loved for a girl to call me a rookie. :crackup:
 

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This girl owns you.
 

Interceptor

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Do not let this immature female take over your mind and emotions.

This female has extremely low self esteem, and is using you to try to boost her ego and justify herself.
There doesnt seem to be any compasion, understanding, or maturity in her, so do NOT let this low character female rule your Center.
 

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you're right she does have low self esteem, i dont understand why though because she gets a lot of attention from guys when she's out and there's always someone willing to pay for her drinks and cigs.

the thing that annoys me most is that she doesnt think she's done anything wrong, i know i shouldnt let it get to me but this girl told me she really liked me several times and i couldnt help but get attached a bit. when i told her she'd crossed the line with that rookie thing she didnt seem a bit sorry, and said i should take it more lightheartedly.

this was two days ago i told her. anyway she was out again the night after and asked me to buy her and her friend a drink (i owed her friend one from a few nights ago), i told her no (this was cos i wasnt gonna buy one for her as well) and she got all stroppy and later on texted me saying i was stingy. she also texted me a load of insults today.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Interceptor

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Randall
stop wasting your time and energy with this female. You cant change her.
So you have to be the one to walk away and cut all ties with her.
 

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i would do but it isnt that simple.. i mean we have the same bunch of friends, and i see her a lot. i know i havent done anything wrong so i aint gonna lose sleep over it. also, so many other people have said she's a user, self centered, and messes people around... its a real shame cos shes kind of a nice girl at the same time.. just very messed up, she's had a traumatic life. however i know she has no excuse for this behaviour
 

DonJuan11

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randalll said:
i would do but it isnt that simple.. i mean we have the same bunch of friends, and i see her a lot. i know i havent done anything wrong so i aint gonna lose sleep over it. also, so many other people have said she's a user, self centered, and messes people around... its a real shame cos shes kind of a nice girl at the same time.. just very messed up, she's had a traumatic life. however i know she has no excuse for this behaviour
It sounds like you have feelings for this girl my friend, despite the fact that she has talked behind your back, insulted you, and doesn't care about your feelings.

If you have the same bunch of friends, be polite when you are out with her. Do not respond to any insults or put downs that will feed her ego. I would not persue a relationship with this girl for obvious reasons, but it doesn't mean you can't be courteous.
 

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You can ignore it, whine about it or get back. I would go with the first option it's the most mature and who cares. If you want to get back tell people who hang around her, she smells so funky down there you thought you were guest starring on dangerous catch, or has pu55y lips that remind you of the highschool curtains :)
But seriously, ignore it, move on, the worst insult of all is to kick her to the curb, and have sex with other women.
 

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i used to have feelings for this girl, and still do a little bit. but they are definately under control now and i have been with another girl since her. my friend said the other night i seemed like i was totally over her.. and i pretty much am.

its a great feeling when you can look at a situation like this and realise that you can do a lot better, and you cant rely on anyone but yourself to make you happy

..i owe a lot to this forum
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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slaog

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Tell her to stop it or you'll be forced to come up with a nicename for her.

It's an easy one to deal with anyway.
Anytime she or anybody says Rookie all you have to do is say "Yeah, Rookie compared to her"!! Say it with a smile too to really turn it around on herself.
 
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