"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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belividere

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I actually think that a good chunk of this list is probably pretty correct.
 

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Originally posted by belividere
I actually think that a good chunk of this list is probably pretty correct.
dude, just look at #23. how can that be correct? If you are in a relanship, and your girl deprives you of sex, because you got into a fight about something, then you should be looking for a new girlfirend, my firend. That is one major mistake. Its not right to deprive a guy of sex. I mean if the girl can do that, then obviously the relanship is not going to last!
 

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Originally posted by Vasko
dude, just look at #23. how can that be correct? If you are in a relanship, and your girl deprives you of sex, because you got into a fight about something, then you should be looking for a new girlfirend, my firend. That is one major mistake. Its not right to deprive a guy of sex. I mean if the girl can do that, then obviously the relanship is not going to last!
Well...a woman depriving a man of sex is essentially no different than a man depriving a woman of telling her that he loves her. A man's number one need in a relationship is sex. A woman's number one need in a relationship is feeling and knowing that she is loved. When you guys refuse to tell your girlfriends that you love them or verbalize feelings for her you are harming her in the same way you get harmed when she deprives you of sex. Doing either is wrong and harmful to a relationship.
 

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i tell my girlfriend how much i love her, when she calls me mr.orgazmo in bed. haaha im just kidding. I believe that saying 'I Love you' is risky bussiness, i mean unless your really love the girl. and I thknk that saying i love you too much is going to make yolu sound like a wuss. its really important to know when to say I love you!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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That's the thing about being in a relationship that involves an exclusive sex claus. If you don't screw any body else then the hornyness of the two individuals will force them to reach some kind of compromise in their differences. If one of the party goes outside the relationship for sex, then that person has less of a reason to compromise. That's why outside sex is called cheating. Exclusive sex helps hold the relationship togethere.
 

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Vasko,
yeah 23 seems like a bad thing off the bat but when you are actually in an exclusive long term relationship #23 makes sense, go back and look at #6. The girl is using her actions instead of her words. This is quite common and anyone with experience in LTR's knows that if your girl is holding out on sex it is due to deeper reasons. I dont really agree with the fact that #23 says it is because they feel fat. I would more truthfully think that if they were holding out on sex in an LTR becuase they felt fat is was because the guy said or did something to make them feel insecure. I continue to stick by the fact that this list is pretty accurate except a couple of things.

And supergigalo I'm actually a southsider by birth. I dont live there anymore but spent most of my life there. Where abouts are you from?
 

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i tell my girlfriend how much i love her, when she calls me mr.orgazmo in bed. haaha im just kidding. I believe that saying 'I Love you' is risky bussiness, i mean unless your really love the girl. and I thknk that saying i love you too much is going to make yolu sound like a wuss. its really important to know when to say I love you!
Sorry I forgot to mention this. I think that you are right to say that those three words are risky as they will entirely alter the state of your relationship. I have to say that wyldfire is definetly right here though. Women demand affirmation of their feelings and denying them that will only led to them second guessing you. I read some of the articles or tips on here saying that you should never say that you love a woman until you are married or have been dating for 10 yrs+. Honestly I haven't found a girl that would wait around without cheating on you for that long. I dont encourage saying things that you dont truly mean but if you have been dating a girl for over a year and you dont feel that you are either in love with her or falling in love with her that you shouldn't be with her anyways. I think that at that point your girl would consider you a commitment-phobe and drop you anyways since like wyld said she isn't getting the emotional satisfaction from you that she desires.
 

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Originally posted by Brother_Rapp
That's the thing about being in a relationship that involves an exclusive sex claus. If you don't screw any body else then the hornyness of the two individuals will force them to reach some kind of compromise in their differences. If one of the party goes outside the relationship for sex, then that person has less of a reason to compromise. That's why outside sex is called cheating. Exclusive sex helps hold the relationship togethere.
That's a good explanation. Never thought about it that way.
 

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Don't ever tell us what to do, even when we ask you to.

We're unimpressed by men who don't take the lead. Be a man, dammit!

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Contradictory anyone?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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#1 Saying "I love you" before, during or after sex doesn't count.


This may be a semantic argument, but is there any time that isn't before, during, or after sex?

But overall I thought it was dead in. The thing us guys need to know about girls is that while men are motivated by things like success and accomplishent, women are movtivated by relationships.

Because of this they need to be constantly reassured that they are loved and are doing well in their relationships (with you, their parents, and their friends. That's why girls will tell each other they love each other often, yet you'd never tell a guy friend you loved him unless he had cancer).
 

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ohiofutballa

We're unimpressed by men who don't take the lead. Be a man, dammit!


Brother Rapp
In this modern day times, I've been told many times on this board that women didn't like dominant men.
 

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sorry for the late reply, but ive had some setbacks. anyway, back to bussiness.

SuperGigoloDJ, I live on the north side of chicago. Naperville is a really nice little town, ive been there for chicago fire game back in the day, like 3 years ago or so, when they were working on soldier field, or something like that.

I must say though, and i agree with all of you, but i guess its just me, because if a girl holds out on sex then im out the door. i mean not right away, but if she abused me, then i would be gone. I also believe that saying I love you is risky, unless like you guys said, in a long term relanship. in other words, i agree with you.
 
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