"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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omg i STILL suck at cold approaches

Soprano

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god damn..... ive come a long way from a couple years aog and i am now confident in my game except cold approaches, i straght up BLOW at it.... can someone give me some tips for actually starting the conversation and the first things to say to her?

once the ice is broken im usually good go to from there, but i just go blank when i want to make the approach and start thinking about all the "what ifs"
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Alrighty..

1. See girl
2. Observe in 3 seconds what she's wearing, how cute she is and what she is doing.
3. Walk up to said girl and start with either 'hey', 'those shoes look funny', 'your hair is so pink!! OMG!', 'what's ____ (persay a book)', ask for help from her, etc.

That's the beginning, simple as pie.
 

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I struggle with this too. Being not so good looking and very shy it's a difficult barrier to overcome.

How exactly am I supposed to continue a conversation with some person after opening with a remark about their shoes or some other random thing? Cold approaching practically screams a statement of intent so I don't know how to break the ice with someone who doesn't even want to talk to me (yet)
 

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Im not shy and I think I scrub up pretty well, I look at girls and I feel confident Im just like what the **** do I say. Sometimes its made easy if the girl starts the conversation with me or sometimes I say something and then I cant remember what I said the next day.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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it takes a lot of cold approaches to get "good" The greats talk about doin thousands so dont sweat the first hundred or so, lol. Even then the success and sex hopefully comes before that anyways
 

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Soprano said:
god damn..... ive come a long way from a couple years aog and i am now confident in my game except cold approaches, i straght up BLOW at it.... can someone give me some tips for actually starting the conversation and the first things to say to her?

once the ice is broken im usually good go to from there, but i just go blank when i want to make the approach and start thinking about all the "what ifs"

sounds like youre still in stage one if your questioning yourself.

of course we all do it, but start reaching down your pants and using your b*lls. Tell the world youre the sh*t and start acting like it. approach her with the mindset that youre the sh*t, and stop acting like a wussy.

SARGE ON.
 
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