"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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OMG I met a HB8 and just chatted with her... this is scary

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THERE IS ALOT MORE before this and it gets worse... more abuse she talks about. She said it's been going on for 20 years.

But this is all you need to see to understand... how to proceed with this OTHER THAN RUN?




HB8: last time anyone laid a hand on me as 4 years ago, and it was with a golf club. I moved away after that

MNIN: wow that stuff hurts just reading about it

HB8: the first person who molested me was my brothers best friend who he still talks about to this day when I am around

HB8: I found a picture of her at oneof my birthday parties the other day and flipped out, I cried and ripped it up, I mean I have her face like imprinted in my head but to see her sitting next to a little me so small and innocent, I threw up

MNIN: that's raw I don't know how to respond

HB8: yeah, it is alot to take in

HB8: ok so I am tearing up just thinking about this, I usually don't get so emotional but I am sure not feeling well is contributng to me not being able to separate so can we talk about something else? If you have questions, that is cool, I am an open book, just not right now, ok?

HB8: brb

MNIN: ok
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I HOPE she is playing a stupid joke on me... Should I call her out on it?
 

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Where are you talking to this psycho? Log off quick and don't mess with crazy *****es
 
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Skel said:
Where are you talking to this psycho? Log off quick and don't mess with crazy *****es

We made plans for this weekend already. BEFORE this chat, ofcourse.

Now she drops this crap on me?

I am just wondering if this is a joke.. I can't call her on it, what if it's real? Plus, I can't just log off and ignore her, it isn't my style.

I'm just not sure about hanging out with her unless it's a crowded area.
 
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I am beginning to believe this is a huge sh!t test.. look what she just said:


HB8: "oh, I have some real horror stories, give me a minute and I will share"
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Looks like she has some serious issues, dude. If you're disparate enough to be with a girl who has those kinds of issues, stick with it. If you aren't disparate (and I think you are), you'll move on to the next girl. Personally I'd rather be with an ugly chick without issues than a hb8 with issues. Good luck!
 
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tick37 said:
Looks like she has some serious issues, dude. If you're disparate enough to be with a girl who has those kinds of issues, stick with it. If you aren't disparate (and I think you are), you'll move on to the next girl. Personally I'd rather be with an ugly chick without issues than a hb8 with issues. Good luck!

Could this not be a huge joke? She just said she is going to tell me "some horror stories".. as if she didn't already.

It's getting to the NOT believable stage now, and I'm still in chat with her.

Sh!t test?
 
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HERE's more chat:

HB: had one guy grab my crotch


MNIN: yeah that happenes to me all the time

HB: had one guy come out of his kitchen (he was maing me dinner) with no pants on and told me to "suck this" and " do you want my bleep in your bleep"
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what the hell
 

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Whether it's the real deal or just a test, it's better to show that you aren't needy. A woman wants a man that can walk away or back off. That shows that you're not dependent on her for your emotional needs. So, just back off, and you will have passed the test. If it's not a test, then walking away would be the best thing for you.

Remember, don't do things with women based on fear. You are the catch, not her.
 

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One other thing, I see you open thread after thread worried about women. I've opened a couple myself, but I've realized what I'm doing wrong. I'm letting the women have the power by thinking and conveying "I am not enough" in some form or another.

Now, I just tell myself that "I'm the catch". She's lucky to have a guy like me. If you can start thinking this and living this way, you'll have a new attitude towards women, and you'll have more success.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Thanks tick that was a good read, but as for the chat? Who cares if it's a test? I don't care if she has power, and I don't care about her. I'm just being entertained by her right now. And I thought I would share with the community.

If it's for real? I don't want to back down.. let's see what happens. It's not like I'm ki$$sing her butt, asking her what I can do to fix her problems. She has given me her #, but I haven't called it yet and she already told me she wants to meet up.
 

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You can say that you don't care, but it's obvious that you do. You need to own up to the way you're being and stop being in denial. It's so obvious. Once you can stop denying it and own up to it, then you'll change. You're not fooling me or anyone else. If you really want to play a game with her, you'll back off. Let her wonder about you, but you will not give a girl the opportunity.

That's all the help I have. Good luck.
 
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check this out chat update


HB8 "I feel like crap today I am taking vicodin"

MNIN: "Can I have one? You arent the only one with problems missy"


no response yet
 
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tick37 said:
You can say that you don't care, but it's obvious that you do. You need to own up to the way you're being and stop being in denial. It's so obvious. Once you can stop denying it and own up to it, then you'll change. You're not fooling me or anyone else. If you really want to play a game with her, you'll back off. Let her wonder about you, but you will not give a girl the opportunity.

That's all the help I have. Good luck.

Yeah dude, I care to the point she is entertaining me now. It's not like I really care about her. I haven't even met her. Come on give me a little credit.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Well, I called her out on the joke and it didn't do sh!t. She acted all serious and I ended the chat.

WTF, I'll post an update later. I don't think I'll be calling her anytime soon.
 

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MNIN you should change your name to "Days of our Lives", your the resident soap opera around here.

ps what do you do for a living?
 
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MacAvoy said:
MNIN you should change your name to "Days of our Lives", your the resident soap opera around here.

ps what do you do for a living?
Nunya told me to say hello.

As for the drama, You can call me the Drama King, girls like to call me that.
 

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You need a backbone and some standards.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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