Older women

[Incremental]

So I'm 25, and I recently # closed a 33yo and got plans for after midterms. I've never gone out with an older woman, and this one seems pretty mature emotionally. What advice can you all give me to make sure this first time out goes really well?

 

[kingwilliam]

More than likely (based on my experience) you're gonna have the best sex of your life for a while. She more than likely is an independent woman who is not afraid to tell you exactly how she wants it, and she has the experience to please you as well. Chances are that you will not end up dating her for a long time, maybe a few weeks at best.......but you will walk away from the situation a more experienced lover and person.

Good Luck

 

[STR8UP]

Older women = younger women without the perky t!ts and firm ass.

Enjoy!

 

[joekerr31]

older woman = greater desire to please you, greater desire for sex and better conversation.

in my experience.

 

[WestCoaster]

So I'm 25, and I recently # closed a 33yo and got plans for after midterms. I've never gone out with an older woman, and this one seems pretty mature emotionally. What advice can you all give me to make sure this first time out goes really well?

Ah, this brings back bad memories. I did the same thing at your age, I dated some women much older, thought I was being cool or something. Yeah, I got the sex, blah, blah, blah ... certainly no better than if I was hitting it with a young 20 something, actually it wasn't as good as the younger ones.

Let's see, you're in college, which has the ripest, most fertile crop of young women that you could find -- and you're closing in on a 33-year old?! Oh man, I did the same things. If you're just looking for a quick score, go ahead. But if you're seeking something more, I'm highly against it. Women at this age group are in the man-hater/bitter stage; women 18-25 are for the most part not man-hating and bitter. Most women are game players; the 33-year olds have it down to a science.

You should be hitting on the youngsters at your college, whether it's for dating many women, a quick score, or a relationship.

You're wasting your time on the 33-year old, IMO, unless it's only for a one-night stand.

 

[Metro3pilot]

Women at this age group are in the man-hater/bitter stage

Damn Skippy ! !

:rockon:

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

older woman = greater desire to please you, greater desire for sex and better conversation.

in my experience.

I think that they tend to act more authentically (at least they believe that their feelings are authentic) than younger women you [re]act to the situations going on around them. More mature women are a bit more predictable once you understand what drives them.

 

[Mr.Positive]

Generalizations can be made on a woman's age..

however, my limited experience is to not make any assumptions, because it may come back on you and bite you in the ass.

Women are women, period. Each one is unique.

 

[Sinistar]

Older women = HUGE rationalization / justification to not have to lead. Plus it's an obvious buffer towards avoiding rejection.

Like West mentioned, I also fell into pattern of seeking out older women. And it was almost like a subroutine ... they are older therefore they must be more mature, experienced, stable, s3xy, etc. And there was always the same outcome. I always yielded the frame because after all they are more mature, experienced, s3xy, etc. At best I may have had the frame temporarily yet in the end, yielded to them in hopes of keeping it working.

What the 'f' does it take to break this AFC programming that [significantly] older women are somehow better. Of course, what they are best for is f-buddies - period. Pick a woman 5yrs - or better yet 10yrs+ older then follow the facts. She will most likely have had more relationships than the younger guy and if she's tooling around for younger guys she's more or less broken, set to spend the majority of her days seeking affirmation, etc, etc, etc. And he will most likely be AFC (ie insecure). Then add in that the AFC [nearly always] sees this as a relationship event.

What the younger guy should be doing is conquering his fear of rejection by approaching the younger women who appear to have more options. And when he does get dates, he should be learning to lead and observe women and he spins those plates because that experience will serve him very well when he's older and wants to select the best possible woman to have his kids (providing he still wants that when he's older).

You seek the quote around here often "Why is youth wasted on the young." The younger AFC seeking older women is a prime example of this. Instead, be the DJ when you're young. You see a s3xy older HB, then work your game and have fun with it. The DJ will know anything LTR is a waste of his precious time. And all the while his main quest will be meeting and leading and observing woman closer to his own age (and younger) so that he's an unstoppable force when he's older, wiser, wealthier, totally confident, etc.

 

[kdnash82]

Dude... If you got a older womans phone number, simply be yourself. That was obviously what attracted her in the first place.

Pleasing a older woman isn't hard. They have everything they need already. The fact that you're now in their life is a "WANT". They pretty much want young meat. Us young bucks get hard when the wind blows a certain direction. We want it all the time and for some reason those older guys just can't get it up as much.

Now this totally blows my mind, because younger women swear up and down that all we think about is sex. Some get turned off by this fact. This could be the reason they're attracted to older men. They can't get it up as much, so don't have sex as much. Then they get older and want it all the damn time and the man they married can't give it to them anymore.

 

[STR8UP]

I have found that they are NOT better at sex. The two best sex partners I have ever had were 20 & 21. Once she's fukked a few dozen times she either "has it" or she doesn't. Women don't become better lovers the way men do. I got my skills from trying different things and paying attention to the reactions they received. Women might learn a few new tricks and be a little more open to trying new things, but if she can FUKK really good, chances are she could FUKK really good 10 years ago too.

Yea, one advantage to an older woman is that she might be more stable, own a home, have more money, etc. But is that really what attracts a man to a woman? No, it's hip to waist ratio, facial symmetry, beautiful hair and skin, etc.

When I'm 45-50 I'm gonna be dating the early 30's hotties. Until then....21-28ish all the way

 

[Sinistar]

Now this totally blows my mind, because younger women swear up and down that all we think about is sex. Some get turned off by this fact. This could be the reason they're attracted to older men. They can't get it up as much, so don't have sex as much. Then they get older and want it all the damn time and the man they married can't give it to them anymore.

...okay this is interesting because for everything that seems wrong with it, there's probably some right to it. The younger HB is gonna be drawn to the older guy because he's got power, money, big house, confidence, etc. All stuff to make her babies have the best chance. Not to mention, her being able to sit back and be lazy, basically kept at a cost. However, it is funny in that the older guys drive will be lower. He will not need s3x as often and that will actually work to his advantage because it is one less thing he needs from her. Which will keep keep her in his frame and she will have less power to bargain her intimacy.

Perhaps it should read: "This could be a reason their attraction for older men is sustained".

 

[WestCoaster]

You should be dating younger

First rule of the Mature Man DJ: If you are age 30 or under, you should not be dating 30 or over unless the woman is just off the charts outstanding as a person, i.e., intelligent, kind; is in shape, is a great cook, etc. That's the exception, not the rule.

I say this because I did that young boy/older woman drill. Oh, these women are smarter, more experienced in the sack, more mature, blah, blah, blah. My worst breakups have come from older women, the worst games played against me have come from older women. Now I date women 30 and above because, well, I'm older. But if I was TWENTY FREAKING FIVE, NO F'N WAY.

Here's the deal: You have the rest of your life to date older women, you have a very small window of opportunity to date hot, young women. Why would you mess with that opportunity?

You're nuts ... spend your time chasing younger.

 

[kdnash82]

Like I said. Some woman left a serious bad taste in WestCoaster's mouth. As a young man, you DO NOT get with an older women with intentions on having a serious relationship.

Of course she's more experienced. Of course she's smarter. Of course she's more experienced in the sack. She's OLDER!!! If you put your heart into a woman that's older you're gonna get hurt.

Look at dating older women as an eye opener. She will be able to show you things that a younger woman will never be able to. She will teach you things that the younger girl still doesn't know about. She has no problem with treating you instead of the other way around, because she's more stable than that younger chick who's still living off daddy's wallet.

So do the opposite of what WestCoaster says. Go out and get that older woman. Use her as a learning experiene, because she's using you for your wang. DO NOT fall in love. DO NOT become committed to this woman. DO NOT start to plan your life based on her. DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT!! Simply have fun and enjoy the things you will get from her.

When you're older, you'll have plenty of younger chicks that will want your wang!

 

[Sinistar]

First rule of the Mature Man DJ: If you are age 30 or under, you should not be dating 30 or over unless the woman is just off the charts outstanding as a person, i.e., intelligent, kind; is in shape, is a great cook, etc. That's the exception, not the rule.

...or...

So do the opposite of what WestCoaster says. Go out and get that older woman. Use her as a learning experiene, because she's using you for your wang. DO NOT fall in love. DO NOT become committed to this woman. DO NOT start to plan your life based on her. DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT!! Simply have fun and enjoy the things you will get from her.

...so what's it gonna be - the kids might be getting confused!

 

[WestCoaster]

Let me bash a few myths here:

1. Not all young women want an older guy. Some do, not all. I work at a university, all the young women here date the young men. I see hardly any with older men. They're not stupid, they're dating guys in shape and with a full head of hair while they can. You have the rest of your life to get older.

2. Don't fall in love with the older woman -- correct. Easier said than done, depends if your initial poster is an AFC, a DJ, a player, a wimp, or confused psychologically.

You have a small window of opportunity in your life to date 18-25, for the most part that age group of women are NOT interested in older men. Some are, most aren't. The ones that are usually aren't very secure. Our poster is 25, he should be dating a ton of women right now ages 18-25 not wasting his time with an older woman, unless it's a fling. But you can have flings with younger women who are sexier and more exciting.

Don't listen to the older women lovers here, I date them now because they're age appropriate. I'd advise all young men AND women in their 20's to date people in their 20's. Society doesn't tell us this but ages 18-30 for men is when they should be doing a number of non-settle down things like: seeing the world, testing out different hobbies and interests, AND dating tons of women in their 20's. Society would have us to believe this is hedonistic -- perhaps it is, tough crapola -- and that older women are the bomb.

Nope, get the goods while the getting is good ... and if you're not going to listen to me, I have a ton of 40 something guys who agree with me and wished they would've dated many more 20 somethings when they were that age.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Of course she's more experienced. Of course she's smarter. Of course she's more experienced in the sack. She's OLDER!!!

Hahaha! Oh yeah, after 32 their IQ just spontaneously skyrockets. Funny thing is, some of the most clueless, pollyannish women I've ever encountered in this life have all been older than me.

Older women are hot for younger men for the same reason older guys are hot for younger women - it's generally easy pickens.

 

[kdnash82]

It's funny how it's all the older guys who are bashing the older women. I guess it's the whole been there done that thing. I've always thought that saying was b/s. Experience life for yourself, not because someone told you I've done it before, and it's not a good idea. Every situation is different. In my experience I prefer the older ones. Do I date the younger ones. Of course. I'm 25!!!

Do whatever you want. It's called advice for a reason. It's your decision to use it or not.

I've dated older women. I've dated younger women. What are some pro's and con's to both?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...I've dated older women. I've dated younger women. What are some pro's and con's to both?

To me it's a woman's mindset and frame towards life and all that it involves. Typically it is believed that older women (or men for that matter) have a better grasp of these things. Actually it's about life experience and perception of the world that influences that, not age.

This forum in itself depicts the dichotomy of a bunch of "older" guys who you would assume would have a complete grasp on "the game" because of their age alone and that of younger guys who shouldn't have a care in the world; again because of their age.

We see on a regular basis some of the older guys who are having challenges with women that rival a high school underclassman while at the same time see young guys barely out of school with bitter, defeatist attitudes towards women (and sometimes life itself) such like what one would expect from a grizzled, cynical old man.

In a nutshell, chalking it up to age is just a simple way to categorize a mass of people with generalities and individual perceptions. We should just understand that those perceptions can either confine us or liberate us.

Just something to consider.

 

[WestCoaster]

It's funny how it's all the older guys who are bashing the older women. I guess it's the whole been there done that thing. I've always thought that saying was b/s. Experience life for yourself, not because someone told you I've done it before, and it's not a good idea. Every situation is different. In my experience I prefer the older ones. Do I date the younger ones. Of course. I'm 25!!!

Do whatever you want. It's called advice for a reason. It's your decision to use it or not.

I've dated older women. I've dated younger women. What are some pro's and con's to both?

I'm not bashing older women, the last one I went out with was 40 or so, and I'm older than her. I rarely date under 30 now. I'm pretty open minded.

But it's about age, and timing, and the TIME that is happening in one's life. Our poster is 25, he has the rest of his life to date 30 and older; he has a very small window of opportunity to date 18-30, a very small opportunity. Not that many 18-30's can't wait to date 35 on up. I know, exceptions to the rule and some guys here do very well with the younger set, STR8UP for one -- he's got game, he's an exception, not the rule. Always go on rules, not exceptions.

The rule here is 18-30 when you're in your 20's. Youth is wasted on the young, I wasted a lot of my youth. I'm speaking from experience, someone who is 25 is NOT speaking from experience.

I'm telling our guy this: date younger in your 20's, ALWAYS date younger in your 20's. Be smart, please, be smart on this.