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The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I know it's not ideal specially if you don't plan on turning it into a LTR. But have any of you 40+ guys kept a younger gal mid 20s around long enough to meet her parents and family?
 

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Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I know it's not ideal specially if you don't plan on turning it into a LTR. But have any of you 40+ guys kept a younger gal mid 20s around long enough to meet her parents and family?
Yes. Two girls met my parents and one introduced her dad recently.

That's usually around the 4-8 month mark, after they tell you they love you.
 
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Yes. Two girls met my parents and one introduced her dad recently.

That's usually around the 4-8 month mark, after they tell you they love you.
How did her pop's take it? I'm sure normal but did you sense and underlined issues since I'm sure he was somewhat around the same age. I've never kept them around that long and after about a year or so they start resenting the fact that I sidestep the issue.
 
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Family? Yes. Parents No. I never let it get to that point, that is usually when things break off.
Yeah me to wonder if we're pulling out too early. Of course at the time it's the correct choice much less drama. But there is one from a few years back that just contacted me via social media and I'm not sure yet if I'm going to take a hard pass yet.
 

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Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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How did her pop's take it? I'm sure normal but did you sense and underlined issues since I'm sure he was somewhat around the same age. I've never kept them around that long and after about a year or so they start resenting the fact that I sidestep the issue.
First, my parents loved her (they thought they would HATE her). My stepdad reminded her of her dad, and suddenly it was like we were family.

Thankfully, her dad is about 15 years older than me, and I look about 38 most people say, so he looks a generation older than me. Her first memories of him would be when he was mid 40's so she has a father figure thing.

She spent yesterday with him but was texting me and they were asking me questions.

I joked how it's a good thing she and I didn't go out to dinner together on Father's Day or people would get the wrong idea! Imagine the practical jokes we could have pulled on our waitress! I told her I want to celebrate Old Enough to be your Father's Day with her though.

Her dad loves me because A) I have a good career like he does, and B) I got him back together with his daughter who was estranged since age 14. I got her to be a model instead of a stripper and she was proud to show him the work we did. I kept her from moving to Las Vegas where she probably would have ended up a call girl. I got her to move out of the place she originally shared with her 23 year old deadbeat bodybuilder who spent all day flexing. That's why I love it when young guys here pretend I'm cuckolding for them or that I can't compete physically. No, she dumped a young, good looking underemployed man half my age for me, and her dad said it was the right move.
 

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From 36-38 1/2 I dated a girl that was 24-26 when we dated. I knew her parents fairly well before we dated but even at that they didnt really like her dating such an older guy at first.

After a couple of months they loved me. They still love me. Even though we broke up over a year ago, her mother still messages me here and there and her father still calls me occasionally. I see them out frequently and we are still very social and civil. No ill feelings on either part.

I was always a gentleman with their daughter and treated her the way her parents wanted someone she was dating to treat her.

Parents will base their view of you based on the happiness of their daughter and the way you treat them. Of course it helps to be outgoing and very friendly with the parents as well.

Hell, when I dated her we would have double dates with her parents, family poker nights, etc. I made myself available to them and put effort into it because that is what it takes to form a close bond with anyone, regardless of age.

Still to this day she hasnt dated anyone that puts forth any effort with her parents and treats her well. Thats probably why she (ex gf) sent me a long happy birthday message last Friday and her mother and brother both sent me nice FB messages on my birthday.

If it ever comes back around that we would date again, I am an automatic shoe in with the entire family. I dont see that happening at this point but its nice to have more people on your side than you would ever need.

Laying a good foundation is important in all relationships in life.
 

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I met her sister.
 
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