"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Old loves stronger than new loves? Getting an X back...

feelingloved

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I know for me, my loves for my first GFs were the strongest.

And after 15 years, I am more attracted to the idea of hooking up (at least temporarily) with my first few GF, over and above my more recent ones.

And I wonder about this.

Is it because first loves are stronger, and remain so over the years?
Is it because I was more of a relationship-inexperienced trusting AFC, and put more effort in.
Is it because the girls I dated 12-15 years ago were younger, thus more energetic and beautiful in my mind, as I recall them?

Or is it an evolutionary program, where by a social mechanism makes us choose to welcome back into our social group & life, an older friend in preference to a more recent friend. In ancient times when populations & tribes were smaller, perhaps this was a choice with evolutionary implications.

An interesting experiment would be to have a female rat live with a male rat for a year, then have the female rat live with different male rat for the second year.

Then have a year separation with no contact with males. Then design a test where the female could attempt to chew through 2 nets to each of the males. (The males would be in a wire cage, but there would be a rope webbing which the female could chew through to reach the cage).

It would then be interesting to see the female rat order of preference.

So my x just left me for a new younger richer taller funnier guy. And my 1 year of familiar love could not compete with the enticement of the new infatuation feelings she is feeling.

However, In time
the feelings of infatuation will fade, and what will remain

in essence is a "feelings competition" between his new familiar love and my old familiar love.

Thats what I am thinking about, from an advantage/disadvantage point of view.

Which is more advantageous to feelings of desire, love & connection? (From a female's perspective)
Does the advantage go to a far past lover or a recent lover?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This is a really good topic and I'm glad you posted it. I experience much the same thing. I'd say it's a little bit of everything you mentioned. You invested in them more (emotionally) would be the primary factor in my opinion.

And I'd be very interested in your experiment. Somebody should actually do it.

Kudos,
Matt
 

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All for that experiment.

I think it's because you were much more of an AFC and might of got whipped if only for a bit when you where with her, so you naturally want her. Everyone want's what they can't have.
 
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