"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Old crush I had in High school

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well, old is relative (abour a year ago), but I got this chick I had a crush on in high school around a year ago, and mustered to get her msn after having taken her picture at the school fair, she told me she'd like me to send it to her, so I talked to her then, sent it, and talked a bit, but it never went really well. She stopped coming on msn for a while, and came back a few weeks ago. I ignored the first few times, and talked to her a few times till then.

Problem I have is that I can't seem to strike an interesting convo. We normally just kinda "bash" each other (in a kind way, morel ike teasing), but I have trouble turning that to asking a date or what. I guess it'd be better if I asked her phone number. I gave her mine, but she didn't call back. SHy maybe? I don't know. Should I ask phone number next time she connexts? (After a bit of chit chat of course)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dude, girls our age are extremely naive and inexperienced; I'm betting that she's just as confused as you are.

#1) Get your ass off MSN. There are better things to do with your time than the equivalent of sitting two feet away from the phone waiting for it to ring.

#2) Lay off of her for a few days. Clear your mind and assess your priorities before you make her think you're some love-sick puppy dog.

#3) Be a man of action. Next time you do run into her, invite her to a movie, bowling, foam party, orgy, whatever. Be like....

"Hey, I'm going out Friday. I might see a movie or something. Would your parents mind if you went with me?"

This approach is good because it doesn't set you up for rejection and actually helps your chances. How? First thing, its extremely casual and low-key while making it seem like you're going with or without her; you stay in control with nothing to lose. Instead of asking her if she wants to go out with you, you ask her if her parents will let you take her to the movie. So instead of intent = date (ass), it transforms into intent = fun movie (with me).

Hope this helps.
--JP
 

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"Hey, I'm going out Friday. I might see a movie or something. Would your parents mind if you went with me?"
this isnt a critism, just a question.

Doesnt that make it sound like you are going alone or something? What if she asks who youre going with?
 

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Originally posted by naes
this isnt a critism, just a question.

Doesnt that make it sound like you are going alone or something? What if she asks who youre going with?

There you go my friends, the same exact analytical mindset that has caused the extinction of an entire race of men. Think exactly like this, and you'll be far too busy thinking to ever get laid!

Ohh yeah, shutting up and just doing works wonders. A whole heck of a lot better than sitting around and twiddling thumbs.
 

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Few things to keep in mind while approaching her.

1. Do It in person
2. If you have a crush on her, you are not thinking clearly. Get your DJ cap on before you try anything. Otherwise you will come across as insecure, not confident, and all the other AFC adjectives.
3. Girls rarely call you. You have to be the man and step up.
4. Try not to think about it too much. Overthinking will cause you nothing but trouble. You will have worked out some plan/scheme, and when it doesnt work, you won't be able to think on your feet. Your nerves will go haywire, and you will be doomed to failure.

Relax, ease up, and be a man.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I've got no problems with whatever you say, and actually, the "get your ass off msn" comment *would* have applied to me, but these days, I barely get the time to get on the internet 3-4 hours a week. Most of the time I'm too occupied searching for something to even answer on MSN.

I also did mention that I *had* a crush, which isn't present anymore, but she's still cute. But thanks for the comments, I'll get her phone number and call her once I get the time
 
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