"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Okay, women like a guy who is a "challenge" right?

FatHairyM4F

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You hear so much about women putting up with such bad treatment from their S.O. and when they're asked why they do it, some are honest enough to say "he's a challenge". The challenge of course being "taming" this "bad boy".

2 questions: One, what if she does finally "tame" him? Do they lose interest in him because he's not a challenge anymore? I worked with a woman who told me that's what happened with her baby's father (1st baby's father I should say, the 2nd baby's father is in jail, and after that I lost touch with her :rolleyes: ). He was so irresponsible and stuff, typical irresponsible unemployed bf that you hear so many women complaining about. And then he finally started being Mr Responsible and she said she lost interest in him. "That's why playing hard to get works", she said.

Second question: Does the "woman trying to tame the bad boy" scenario ever work in reverse? Do women ever take guys who are TOO tame to begin with, and try to turn them into "bad boys", or at least close enough to a bad boy that he excites her? You never hear about that happening. What's the difference? Wouldn't taking a guy who is too tame, a complete AFC, and turning him into someone more exciting be just as much of a "challenge"?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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the reason being that she LIKES the bad boy element. Thats what ATTRACTED her to the guy in the first place. If its not there, why would she be attracted in the first place. That woman you described sounds like a headcase anyways. I fear for the children.
 

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what if she does finally "tame" him? Do they lose interest in him because he's not a challenge anymore?
Yes. I've seen it happen over and over. Even some of the "jerks" out there can become pvssywhipped.

Does the "woman trying to tame the bad boy" scenario ever work in reverse? Do women ever take guys who are TOO tame to begin with, and try to turn them into "bad boys",
Yes, but it's kinda rare and it doesn't last long before she ditches him. It's usually a final effort to turn the pvssywhipped guy back into an attractive guy. Women will come out and actually say "I WANT you to tell me NO sometimes! I WANT you to stand up to me! I don't WANT you to let me have my own way all the time!" This is one of the few times where a woman will tell a man what she REALLY wants instead of telling him some sugar-coated bull5hit.
 

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Desdinova said:
Yes, but it's kinda rare and it doesn't last long before she ditches him. It's usually a final effort to turn the pvssywhipped guy back into an attractive guy. Women will come out and actually say "I WANT you to tell me NO sometimes! I WANT you to stand up to me! I don't WANT you to let me have my own way all the time!" This is one of the few times where a woman will tell a man what she REALLY wants instead of telling him some sugar-coated bull5hit.
Hmmm. How to find women willing to do the "AFC into a bad boy" thing? Maybe willing to make me her "project".....I know, sounds too much like a movie :p
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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FatHairyM4F said:
2 questions: One, what if she does finally "tame" him? Do they lose interest in him because he's not a challenge anymore?
They just want the best guy they can get.

They judge whether you're that guy based on your behavior. If you're too easy, she'll think she can do better. If you're too hard, she'll think she can't get you. If you're there, but she would like to change some things about you, you're right where you need to be. Don't let her change those things about you. Because they also want a guy who knows where he's going.
 

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It's not the challenge that women like necessarily, it's about interest. Some women like a challenge, others bad boys, others intellectuals, others athletes, the list goes on and on. It's all about being interesting in several different ways.
 

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Familiarity breeds contempt. Don't buy into all that bad boy shyt, all you need is a life of your own. Never let a hor become your life.

And forget about being some hors pet project.
 
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