"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Okay, this is a field report/hellllpppppp

Mr. Cardio

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Okay , this is a field club report mixed with any suggestions to this very questionalbe question I have, somebody, anybody, please give me some serious feedback.

I dont have any friends, and really, I dont need any, so I roll to the clubb solo but I enter in total party mode. So I enter the club tonight, (I am black so it was a black club), I am basically the only one in the club thats really hype, I enter and as usual, head straight for the dance floor, I grind bout two girls then leave and rome the club and talk and mess and neg hit girls.

Eventually, most of the girls started to reject me and I dont understand why, because I was in party mode and i had what I believe to be the best party vibe of the night. I dont know if i was too hype, but I sure was having a lot of fun and basically, the time of my life in there, I didnt care to be myself, and I know I had the party vibe.

This happens usually everytime I enter the club, and I cant seal the deal and close wit a one night stand which I believe I rightly deserve. Do you guys think I am irriatiing, which at times I think it does become irriating, but I am having so much fun, that I cant really help it, but I want one night stands. I am in party mode, that is for sure, but whats wrong with this picture. A couple of girls usually every time want to kick my azz for something I did, I just play it off like I dont really care and keep neg hittin them, then some dudes, like tonight, try to say something smart as to back her up (captain save a hoe) and I am there alone, and usually already drunk when I enter so I dont really want to fight, just party.

Guys, help me the hell out, I am so damn confused.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The reason you can't get one night stands is because you want them

Don't be so obvious. It makes you look desperate.
 

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luveno, stop, hold on, you dont understand dude.

I am in PARTY MODE. that means, I am strictly partying. I dont even have sex on my mind dude, just partying. The problem is, everything starts out great, then girls start rejecting me, and that is why I cant leave the club with girls, do you know what I am doing wrong? I though the party vibe was it, but does it work with black girls?
 

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I don't even know what this " party vibe" you speak of is.

But its obvious from your post that you are looking for an ONS. You deny it, but you said it before I did that that was your goal.

If you're being all "hype" because you want a ONS, then its gonna make you look like a loser. If you're just like that, then you shouldn't care about ONS.
 

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luveno, maybe you dont know what the party vibe is, its when you are really hype in the club, basically enjoying life, yes ultimately I wnat to LEAVE the club with a girl, but for the time being, all I want to do is have fun, thats it. Theres no sex on my mind, no nothing like that. Just fun. The problem is, eventually, the girls start rejecting me and I dont know what is up, even though I have the party vibe, which, is supposed to be teh key attraction at a club. My vibe is natural and very spontaneous, I dont understand.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Then you shouldnt care. Whatever if some wack girls aren't into your game. So what. Its just a vagina anyway.

Maybe you should hit different clubs too. get a variety of different girls.

Either way, don't be too concerned over ONSs anyway. Most girls who give those out arent the girls you wanna be screwing anyway.
 

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I understand that luveno, thats the same thing I told myself, but......I still have this problem. I am still single, I approach randomly, this does not just happen in the club but it happens often, I have a serious problem and I dont know what it is. The only thing I notice is that I am always really joyful, I dont know why that is a turn off, but.............luveno, I am still in the dark with women, period, I need help.
 

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I know what you're saying bro. Every man gets into a slump.

But it just shouldn't concern you. I'm no model. Man, I weigh like 155. I'm not even six feet tall. I have bad hair. Yet I still bag the most gorgeous girls around.

How? Becuase I just dont give a ****. There are more important things in life than having hype game, and clubbing, and picking up. Like family, friends, your career, your life, money etc.

When you know where youre going and that no woman can get you off the track, it makes you look more secure=more attractive.

So I suggest expanding your life past the clubs and gym. Expand your mind and influence.
 

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Luveno, THAT is why this is frustrating. I am not some AFC, pvssy svckin guy just trying to discover his manhood, I am all about making money, my future, my dreams, my goals, god damn it luveno, I KNOW THAT I AM SEXY TO WOMEN, I JUUST GOD DAMN KNOW IT. But, and I must admit, I want to do what you do, and thats bang good looking chicks, but it doesnt work for me, for some reason, the girls smile and hold back, unless I rape them, it doesnt happen, THAT IS WHY, this shyt is frustrating, and when I see her go off with an AFC who buys her drinks and kisses her azz, now I am really confused.
 

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i AM sorry, but somebody needs to fvckin help me, I thought this site helped people god damn it.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Man you need to match peoples vibes, and then ease them into your vibe. Your problem is your walking around going "PARTY MODE YO PARTY MODE!!!" when peopl are just chillin and it makes you look like a douchemaster.

when the energy in the club gets more crunked out THEN you should elevate to PARTY MODE. Otherwise lay back in the cut. Do your approaches and whatever. I mean if you know your sexy to women then you would have success.

Nobody likes that happy go lucky guy with a 24 hour smile on his face, that **** is creepy man.

If your rollin solo, play off the mytserious vibes instead of the fat guy party animal vibe.
 

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Okay cool i get you, so I am already hype before the club is actually hype, its kind of like, everybody is waiting for the beat and dj to pick up but I am already up, but.........do I sacrfice my joy for the lack of someone elses? I know I am a don juan for the way I think, I am a leader, hell, I can walk in a club alone and have more damn fun then the whole club, why is that wrong? Why do I have to sacrifice my joy (which is all natural by the way, I am serious like a happy white boy trapped in a black guys body) for the lack of joy in someone else? They have to wait for the club to get hype, I am already hype and dont need a dj.
 

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I'm not big on clubs anymore, but go to www.becomeaplayer.com and check them out. Their club/party section is solid.

Derek Vitalio's articles are good for clubs too. I wish I could say more, but clubs are not my strong point. Good luck.
 
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