backbreaker
Master Don Juan
I'm out on voyeurism rape scenes. That's just too much
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjzC2DRgEo4LiveFreeX said:too much gay sex.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
The gay stuff has been pretty PG if I remember correctly. Mostly kissing, no graphic sex.LiveFreeX said:too much gay sex.
Aye. I don't think that happened in the books, but we already know the producers want to take the canon in a different simplified direction. It just felt like a plot line to turn up the notch on ratings. We already know Ramsey's a twisted individual for what he has shown he's capable of doing with other women and Theon/Reek.FairShake said:That rape scene with Sansa, Ramsay, and Reek was pretty uncomfortable, I never like watching rape, be it male or female, on screen.
Do you know how I know your mind is still warped by feminism? This post right here.backbreaker said:I'm out on voyeurism rape scenes. That's just too much
Jesus wept. This is what e-preening SJW's are going apesh!t over?backbreaker said:Okay seriously, i'm done with game of thrones.
MOARRRRR sodomy dad! Screw your heteronormative cis-patriarchyFairShake said:As a status-seeking sh!tlib friend of the gays I say MOARRRRRR!
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
My dad doesn't mind gay people. He grew up in the city and is civilized. Actually considers them great neighbors.( . )( . ) said:MOARRRRR sodomy dad! Screw your heteronormative cis-patriarchy
Luckily the law in the real world say that a wife can refuse and a husband can be charged with rape. And that is how the scene is judged. Pretty sure it is written as a rape.BetterCallSaul said:4. The law in Westeros states she's now his WIFE. Again, emphasis now on this word WIFE. Let's suppose Sansa did go crying to the king or whoever the hell that she was raped. What then? Suppose the king called Ramsay into trial with accusations of rape. Ramsay simply says "What law have I broken your grace? I was engaged in intimate relations with my WIFE"
That would be difficult.Theon would have banged her if he had the chance.
FairShake said:Luckily the law in the real world say that a wife can refuse and a husband can be charged with rape. And that is how the scene is judged. Pretty sure it is written as a rape.
That would be difficult.
In the books Theon is actually forced to participate though. It could've been worse.
I use my real world values to judge the fiction I see. Which is healthier than the opposite.BetterCallSaul said:Is this why you, BB and the rest of modern media is getting so bent out of shape over this? You can't separate fiction from reality.
I didn't get that impression at all. Nothing in the scene tells me Sansa was enjoying it. Indeed it is implied pretty obviously that Sansa is cooperating only due to Ramsay and his wench's veiled threats and that she is in pain and sad during the scene. Plus it's obvious that she's being forced to have sex in another man's presence, a man she loathes.If Sansa had finished stripping on her own she likely would have been moaning in the same manner she did during this supposed "rape" scene.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Other scenes aren't really being judged, like men being castrated or having their eyes gouged out in a gruesome death. This one scene is a non-issue.FairShake said:And that is how the scene is judged.