Okay... I got the numbers. but they're ALWAYS busy!!

[FightinTiger]

I consider myself a reasonably good student of the "game." I've improved a lot in my skills in the past few years.

I usually do a good job in openings and getting numbers. and, in most cases, I presume that I initially made them attracted to me. I've gotten to the point when I can usually tell if a girl likes me or not. I've had times when their friends would tell me how cute she thinks I am and stuff like that.

but, anyway, when I try to initiate the "meeting," she doesn't answer the phone. I don't leave a message. call her again later. still doesn't answer. finally I give up because I don't wanna seem too desparate by calling her too often. any ideas on how to help with that?

or, she DOES answer the phone, she's nice and all, but, alas, she's "busy" and she'll call me back later. I've recently started to ask her WHEN she'll call and then I give her a time frame within which to call me, cause I don't put up with "bull****." and yes, I often say that word, just for emphasis . this seems to work much better in getting a date scheduled.

but, alas, she has to suddenly visit her sick grandmother the same day we planned to go out. any help on dealing with this stuff or how to avoid it?

 

[Ace of Flames]

Instead of setting up a meeting or date, try just telling her about some kool party you're going to later, or some plans you have for the weekend. Then, say she can come along if she wants. Its not a date, she's just tagging along with you. You'd be going regardless of her, and that tells her that you do other things in your life. If she liked you when you met before, and she isn't busy, she'll probably go along with it. Its worth a try, anyway.

 

[Phyzzle]

Sounds like her interest level isn't high enough.

Rest assureed, I've had chick THRUST their number upon me, and then absolutely SHOCKED when I actually called them. They go "uh , ahm, uahhhhhhhhhh . . . " They get so used to whimps. . . . they can't comprehend a guy actually calling them.

Sometimes, a woman doesn’t want to refuse a # or give you a fake, because it might be taken as an insult. She knows you won’t stalk her, she knows you won’t call her 10 times a day, she knows you basically “get it” when it comes to women . . . she’s just not interested. Take the # as a half-baked compliment.

 

[Tomatoes]

People will prob try and flame me for this but my tried and tested method is to always make the first contact a text.....It stays on the phone and women are more likely to reply to a text than ring you back......Thats for sure!

If they are saying they are busy....well....they are flaking and thats just something that happens now and again.


Sarge On!

 

[KoalaKing]

Why get the girls phone number, when you can just ask her out on a date straight away, then if she refuses the offer, you can just move on to another girl, if she accepts the offer then you get to go out with her straight away, this is common sence.

 

[G_Nice_06]

If she doesn't want to answer ur phone calls or she's always busy don't worry about it just move on to the next girl. If she really likes u like u think she does then she call u to see how ur doin and sh*t like that. But don't just wait around for her scheduleto clear up let her know that ur a busy man by goin out with and talkin to other girls.

 

[INXS]

If she doesn't answer..leave one of the following on her answering machine:

1)Hey its (insert your name here) from (insert where you met) and I know what happened. You were sitting by your phone waiting for me to call, and then when I finally do, you didn't answer because you were too busy thinking about me. Well call me back when you are ready to talk. (Insert number here)

*This works because it is implying that she didn't answer because she was thinking about her, busting her balls for it. She will laugh. If she doesn't think it is funny, you probably want to next her anyways.

2)This is (insert name here) from (insert where you met here) and I think you have a confession to make. Call me back. (insert number here.) I'm kind of busy, but call me and I'll do my best to answer. If I don't, leave a message.

*This works because it will probably peek her interest and make her wonder, what on earth this confession is? Beyond that, the second part of it implies that you are busy, and hard to reach, not just waiting by your phone for her. Having a life is a good think. And if you don't have one, saying you have a life is always good too.

Tip for 2:
When she does call back and ask what the confession is. Say.

What were you doing last night?

She will tell you.

Say "Nice try, but seriously, what were you doing last night?"

She will tell you (probably the same thing - unless she was lying.)

Then say "Okay look. I know you really weren't there. I saw you outside my house, and in your car driving by my house. If you are going to stalk me, at least be more subtle. (Pause for her to laugh or go "Ahh, I can't belive you said that) Then continue with: Look, it is painfully obvious that you are REALLY into me. But there is an easier way. Lets go out for tea and stimulating conversation....

You get the idea...Good luck! Good question.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I keep wondering why you guys half step and settle for just getting a number. You need to learn that some woman will give you their number whether they are interested or not; they'll do what's necessary to get rid of you.

Why not just set up a meeting to see her again, isn't that the goal anyway? Do you guys just plan on spending your weekends talking to her on the phone?

 

[Kings_royalty]

Okay... I got the numbers. but they're ALWAYS busy!!

No they aren't, what they are is 'not' interested. If a girl is interested in you, she will make it very easy for you, she won't come up with reasons for blowing you off. Something is happening along the way that kills any attraction for you, IF they had any to begin with.

You need to look back over the interaction and see what went wrong, and pay special attention to her behavior and actions. Some girls are attention *****s who get off on giving a guy a number and then blowing them off, it's some sort of accomplishment for them.

 

[Hitman10000]

If she doesn't answer..leave one of the following on her answering machine:

1)Hey its (insert your name here) from (insert where you met) and I know what happened. You were sitting by your phone waiting for me to call, and then when I finally do, you didn't answer because you were too busy thinking about me. Well call me back when you are ready to talk. (Insert number here)

*This works because it is implying that she didn't answer because she was thinking about her, busting her balls for it. She will laugh. If she doesn't think it is funny, you probably want to next her anyways.

2)This is (insert name here) from (insert where you met here) and I think you have a confession to make. Call me back. (insert number here.) I'm kind of busy, but call me and I'll do my best to answer. If I don't, leave a message.

*This works because it will probably peek her interest and make her wonder, what on earth this confession is? Beyond that, the second part of it implies that you are busy, and hard to reach, not just waiting by your phone for her. Having a life is a good think. And if you don't have one, saying you have a life is always good too.

Tip for 2:
When she does call back and ask what the confession is. Say.

What were you doing last night?

She will tell you.

Say "Nice try, but seriously, what were you doing last night?"

She will tell you (probably the same thing - unless she was lying.)

Then say "Okay look. I know you really weren't there. I saw you outside my house, and in your car driving by my house. If you are going to stalk me, at least be more subtle. (Pause for her to laugh or go "Ahh, I can't belive you said that) Then continue with: Look, it is painfully obvious that you are REALLY into me. But there is an easier way. Lets go out for tea and stimulating conversation....

You get the idea...Good luck! Good question.

Don't do this (shaking my head), Would you call your own GUY FRIENDS and act like this? NO!!! No tricks, no bullshat, no theorizing how the girl will talk about you. Talk to them like how you would like to a guy and you'll gain more ground. And as for voicemails? Leave a general voicemail that you were trying to reach them on the second call if you can't reach them the first time. Be a man.

 

[Ol'BlueEyes]

INXS's responses

Why the need to go all out ****y/funny, INXS?
Let's say a guy approaches an HB 8 or above. By some chance, (she likes his look, the fact that he has balls) she actually gives him her number.
When he talked to her he was nervous as hell, considerate, humble, and generally a nice guy.
Now, the time comes for him to call (the horror!!!). He decides to go all out with the C/F. Totally incongruent with his personality. The insincerity can be smelled from miles away. What does the HB conclude?

 

[SexPDX]

or, she DOES answer the phone, she's nice and all, but, alas, she's "busy" and she'll call me back later. I've recently started to ask her WHEN she'll call and then I give her a time frame within which to call me, cause I don't put up with "bull****." and yes, I often say that word, just for emphasis . this seems to work much better in getting a date scheduled.

You are focusing too much on getting a date scheduled. What about making her WANT to spend time with you? Did it ever occur to you that if you can do that successfully then getting dates scheduled would just happen without an issue whatsoever?

Telling them their excuses are "bullsht" isn't doing anything but pressuring them and pressure is not seduction. I guarantee you none of these chicks are so busy they can't talk to you, call you back or even go out with you. Their just not interested. Why aren't they? That's a tough one for us to answer, we can't see them, we can't see you.

I suggest you move further back in the process and think more about what your REAL issue is here, because it is not that the girls are busy.