"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Offering help to a girl in class

Maxtro

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There is a chick in one of my classes who is struggling with the current project. When I asked her about it she told me how much it was stressing her out. This has been going on for a few weeks, every now and then I'd offer little tips and pointers but I don't think she is actually listening.

To me this girl is weird. I talk to her everyday in class and she chooses to sit next to me. The problem is that she has a boyfriend that is across the country. Anyways I've known her sense September so I'm pretty sure she knows that I'm into her.

At the end of class today I told her that I could help her but I was nervous and said it very meekly and I don't think she heard me because she got up and went to talk to the professor without saying anything to me.

So here is my dilemma. I know that if I helped her on her project it would be a great reason for us to be alone together and it might get her thinking about me in a different light. I know that she has friendzoned me but that may change if her relationship status with her cross country boyfriend changes. Also we have spent very little time together and she hasn't seen who I really am.

Would it be ok for me to offer her help on her project? I am doing my presentation this Friday which is also the next time I will see her. She is scheduled to present on next Wednesday. I highly doubt that she will ask me for my help. If she doesn't do her project she will get an F in the class. Once the class is over for the day I am planning to clearly offer my help. If she says "no" then I'll have my answer and move on.

Am I approaching this the wrong way?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Good idea. Doesn't sound like you're very confident in yourself though. This was my strong point in high school. Sound crazy, but I was a popular geek.

If you're very strong in the subject that you two are studying, then be confident in it. If you're strong in the subject, chances are she already knows you are.

Most women in my case knew where I was strong and would approach me and ask me to help them. There were a few that would hint, but would never ask. As soon as I threw the idea out, they would get all gitty and excited.

In your case, I would simply be confident. Show her that you're stong in the subject and straight out ask her if you could offer her your assistance in helping her with her project. If she believes that you're strong, then she'll be happy that you offered and accept your offer.

The only way this works is if you're confident and she sees that you're strong. Would you want to get advice from a dummy or a smart guy who wasn't confident in himself? The lack of confidence makes it seem as if you're doing the work and just happened to get lucky.
 

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You guys are already doing presentations in middle school?! That's awesome dude.



I think you should. In order to isolate her, maybe you two could hook up at some sexy setting, like a library. Then you could be close with her, and listen to her problems. That's when you can confess your love to her, and tell her how you felt about her all along. Boy you do have a plan!! Wooooo.


Yes, you are approaching this the wrong way. Her walking right off from you while you were speaking is a sign of huge interest in you, and she also respects you a lot. She's probably thinking you're a disposable friend, an aquintance, a cute boy she sees in class. But let me tell you something, nothing can stand in your way if you trully love her and willing to confess your feelings to her.
 

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I'm not that confident in myself because I don't expect to succeed with her. This would be my last ditch effort. Actually the main thing I expect is to fail with her and it wouldn't really matter because class is almost over. But I would have at least took the risk. Oh, I do know the material and the structure, but I don't want to shove it in her face.

The ideal situation would be for me to do a good presentation then she would say something like, "Wow, Maxtro, your speech was sweet. Can you help me on mine?" Most likely though she would give me some praise then I'll say something like, "Can I offer you my help?" (does that sound too AFC?)

She seemed like she was really stressed out and I didn't put any effort in getting her attention. I know her interest in me isn't that high but I think it's something I can work with.

She's probably thinking you're a disposable friend, an aquintance, a cute boy she sees in class
I think the same way. I think I'm an "almost friend" to her. A guy who talks to her all the time and walks with her after class.

Just in case somebody reading this thread doesn't know or didn't figure out, my skills with women are very low and my experience is very little. Just being alone in the library with a woman for an hour is a big step for me.
 

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If you're confident in the work you can help her with, then be confident in that. Take out the fact that you like her, and concentrate on the sole purpose of being able to help her do good with her work.

If you can do this, then you'll be more relaxed around her. Things will flow a lot better.

Do your project, do well on your project, and if she says that she's still having problems, tell her that you wouldn't mind helping her with hers. Make sure you have a date and time set and throw that at her. Be confident that you can actually help her Ace it.

If you can do all of this and she does actually do well with your help, then you're golden. She owes you one now. Have her take you out on a day time date.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Thanks kdnash82. Yeah it is true that I'm not totally confident in my work. I know I can do it better than she can but I'm not 100% certain that I'm good enough. When I do a good job I'll feel more confident in myself that I actually finished. I'll feel better then, and I won't be nervous when I offer my services.

I like the idea of her taking me out to lunch or something. This is of course, that I do well, and that she accepts my offer.
 

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Okay here is my perspective. First of all, I was a loser in school so I can shoot you straight. There is a line of women a mile long, and they are all waiting to use you. If you want to help her you can, but you have to make it look easy. You don't have to verbalize it. Her assignment can be boiled down into one or two sentences, a basic structure of some kind. Come up with this structure now, take as long as you need while you are alone. Then you can call her or whatever, and say 'yeah sure i can help you, its easy as pie, you'll see." Don't give her anything until you can get her alone.

The important thing is that you show no effort. You can do a lot for her if you want, as long as you make it easy and giver her a hard time, say 'you are so lazy, I know you just wanted to get me alone" and such.

If you get the feeling for a second that she is using you, ignoring you, if she talks on her cellphone while you are with her. Just wait a minute and say "well I think you've pretty much got it, I'm gonna go do some shyte." Don't act like it's a punishment, act like you didn't even notice that she is doing this and you just happen to have something to do.

Honestly, this girl is either sending you signals by acting helpless, or she is just a wh0re and is using you. If you ever feel used, just cut her off.

You are a better man than you realize and she is trashier than you think. In a few years this will be obvious to you.
 

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Actually in this situation I would be using her. This is just the most logical thing I can come up with to get us alone together. BTW I have been used by girls before, I definitely know where the line is and I'll tell her where to go if she crosses it.

I know her topic is something about relationships and thats a great way to start talking to her. There are many ways I can swing this whole thing in my favor I just need to get her alone. I'm also hoping that once I can spend some actual time with her, she can see what a cool guy I am. Even if I don't end up fucking her I'll still get more experience in dealing with women.

In the best case scenario I'll spend about a hour, maybe more helping her on this assignment and have a good conversation while flirting with her.

Anyways I'm fully prepared to do my presentation, I wish I was going tomorrow instead of Friday. If anything goes well, or horribly wrong then I'll do an update.
 

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ok, I was going to say everything superchristx said, but just don't get used.

If it is about relationships, then ask her to relate the material to her past relationships. This gets her talking and you will build common ground quickly. But keep cutting the inetraction short after you get her hooked, and then make her call you to get a little more... then repeat the process.

Psychoanalysis is chick crack. If you are good at it, or at least good at pretending to be good at it, then you can throw a girl an insight here and there just to get her to realize that you can tell her things about herself. Then you draw away and make her chase you to get more chick crack.

To quote an old Master P song:

The first hit's for free
But if you beep me again, you betta have 20, G
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Mr. Wolf said:
Yes, you are approaching this the wrong way. Her walking right off from you while you were speaking is a sign of huge interest in you, and she also respects you a lot. She's probably thinking you're a disposable friend, an aquintance, a cute boy she sees in class. But let me tell you something, nothing can stand in your way if you trully love her and willing to confess your feelings to her.
LOL!!!! :crackup:

Stop it! OMG, you are fvcking hilarious.

This is mean, though, man! But... it gets the funniest post of the night award.

I can't stop laughing!
 
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