Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Dole

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I know I am new here but ive been reading alot of these posts. Everyone give's the following advice "time to move on", shes not interested etc, "there's other girl's". It's alot easier said then done when you like someone and your hurt.
But no one give's advice on how to fix the situation between the relationship.
Or there's nothing to fix??
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Dole said:
I know I am new here but ive been reading alot of these posts. Everyone give's the following advice "time to move on", shes not interested etc, "there's other girl's". It's alot easier said then done when you like someone and your hurt.
But no one give's advice on how to fix the situation between the relationship.
Or there's nothing to fix??
discuss

A lot of times that is exactly how you fix it. If she see's you moving on, a lot of times that will drive her crazy and she'll be calling you.
 

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Women (and Men for that matter) really cannot be fixed by you. If there is no attraction or any basis here, and you know there is none, then the best thing for you is to move on and start having fun again.

In this business, rejection (or maybe what feels like it) is just a plain fact of life.
 
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There's no point flogging a dead horse.

I agree, it's not really suave advice, because there is no skill to ressussitate a dead horse, turn it around, etc.... but I guess that's one of the foundational planks of the system is never get emotionally involved with your victims (people say targets on here as a euphamism) (while of course they believe you are and are trusting that you are sincere, etc... which deceptive people seem to do well - I cant tell a lie and keep a straigt face which is why I'm a bad player), this way it's the other way around, you are emotionally involved with someone who doesn't like you, so of course it cant work - so get someone who is emotionally involved in you that you dont like - and put up an act that you care, and then use for sex where she think's she qualifying for a relationship with you and then dump her afterwards like a hot potatoe, I think that's the correct way it's supposed to work. If you dont do that, she'll friendzone you and find someone who will and will be crying to you afterwards about how all men are liars, but, we are just friends, blah blah blah.

You got the chicken and egg mixed up. The egg comes before the chicken, not the other way around. Excuse my cynical portrayal. An anniversary will soon be coming up of such an experience which happened to me.
 

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You should link an example thread where everyone is saying this to a poster and then post in here how you would respond instead to fix the relationship Dole so everyone can evaluate the merits of your advice on here and judge if it would work or not.

What BigDavis said is mostly the truth.

Whining and crying or begging or making great arguments to some woman on why she should take you back will make you look like nothing but a snivelling pathetic AFC whose she's better off without.

Getting all emotional like this is not a man's place in this world that is the realm of the female in the natural order of things.

Men must move on and if the ex was ever worth anything at all it will be she who will come crawling back not you since her emotions will be so stirred up by your apparent not caring what she does with her life by you moving on with yours.

Things work opposite where men like women being snivelling crybabies who come crawling back to them (especially if she was hot) whereas women look at men who do the same as a snivelling pathetic AFC thats not desirable at all.

Its just the way things are.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Yes people say that a lot on this forum. NEXT NEXT NEXT blah blah blah.

I think it's kinda lame when people say that for the smallest things though. You CAN force interest, that's the point of this site.
 

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Yea, I feel like time is usually the best rememdy for those situations. Give it some time, go out, explore some options and have a good time. Things tend to come back around. Giving things time is important.
 
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Bvbidd said:
Yes people say that a lot on this forum. NEXT NEXT NEXT blah blah blah.

I think it's kinda lame when people say that for the smallest things though. You CAN force interest, that's the point of this site.
Interest can only be built up after making a good first impression and then it goes onwards by displaying high value and keeping up that pace.

Once someone has 'rejected you', 'blown you off' or 'turned you down' then they have already put you on a negative frame - you cant really do anything with that because it just reinforces their frame if you do, so it's a losing battle. At best, maybe they'll get badly burned by some other guy and realize that you were really not that bad and come back (if you still want them back since another guy had her and all that) Allot of useful stuff on this site, if any, would be frame management, and keeping the balance of power on your side or at least even in interactions.

You cant take a imploding unbalanced equasion like that and just magically try to restore balance, if it's going to collapse, it's unstable, and it's going to collapse, you have to reboot and try again.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
Interest can only be built up after making a good first impression and then it goes onwards by displaying high value and keeping up that pace.

Once someone has 'rejected you', 'blown you off' or 'turned you down' then they have already put you on a negative frame - you cant really do anything with that because it just reinforces their frame if you do, so it's a losing battle. At best, maybe they'll get badly burned by some other guy and realize that you were really not that bad and come back (if you still want them back since another guy had her and all that) Allot of useful stuff on this site, if any, would be frame management, and keeping the balance of power on your side or at least even in interactions.

You cant take a imploding unbalanced equasion like that and just magically try to restore balance, if it's going to collapse, it's unstable, and it's going to collapse, you have to reboot and try again.
That's bullsh!t. We all know you have no idea what your talking about. I've gotten with girls that have rejected me. I'd be really worried if she didn't reject me from the start. As that's how it is for most guys. Girls just don't want to feel like a wh0re. Eventually they change they're mind about you. I have never known sex to happen without the girl rejecting the guy at some point or time. Guys on this site just don't want to talk about it, they just assume it's part of the game. I have known girls with HUGE crushes on guys and when that guy makes a move he still gets resistance, as usual.
 

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The problem with this forum is that there is a very small amount of advice actually given. Most people just don't have a clue.

There are three camps here; the guys who don't have a girlfriend and can't get laid to save their lives. And there are guys who have girlfriends but are having problems with them. Then there are the very few number of guys who are actually good with women and are only here to give advice. The clueless guys are the vast majority. They often ask for help and they are often ignored or are told to next her. And none of those things help him get any action...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Maxtro said:
The problem with this forum is that there is a very small amount of advice actually given.

Then there are the very few number of guys who are actually good with women and are only here to give advice.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry! I can't read ALL the threads!

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