DavenJuan
Master Don Juan
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def. a must read to everyone in this forum
def. a must read to everyone in this forum
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
It would appear then, that a goal in finding the newly defined soul-mate, is to locate a woman who "gets it" and is also qualifying -us- in return. Since what we are talking about here is a conscious CHOICE, then the perhaps the best choice would be one where both sides are working in tandem, approaching the selection process from a similar mindset.Victory Unlimited said:You MUST qualify her.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Yo Special Agent Thirdtimescharm,thirdtimescharm said:It would appear then, that a goal in finding the newly defined soul-mate, is to locate a woman who "gets it" and is also qualifying -us- in return. Since what we are talking about here is a conscious CHOICE, then the perhaps the best choice would be one where both sides are working in tandem, approaching the selection process from a similar mindset.
This ONE sentence that you have written right here shines a huge light on one of the MAJOR reasons why there exists such a divide between the two sexes. No one side is fully to blame. We all share in it somewhat. But what I'm speaking of is the LACK of recognition, the LACK of appreciation, and the LACK of willingness that exists between men and women to fully explore the WHOLE of the potentially "good attributes" we each can share with the other.There are plenty of people on SS who are only interested in fvcking women and don't realise the other benefits.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
And this:Victory Unlimited said:Masks of cynicism CANNOT provide enough cover to camofluage the mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual DAMAGE that's been done to many of us who post here. No need for anyone to raise their hands, men. We all know who we are...
These two things mix together in the same man and create a huge problem. You see, when you are one of the "walking wounded" one of your problems is that you won't always know what is "realistic" to expect from women.Be careful though, to not let the death of your "realistic" relationship HOPES and DREAMS be by your OWN hand (your overly negative attitudes, limiting beliefs, melancholy mental focuses, etc.).
All of these dilemmas are readily resolvable when a man has defined clear and immutable criteria for his relationships with woman.Luthor Rex said:You see, when you are one of the "walking wounded" one of your problems is that you won't always know what is "realistic" to expect from women.
When you're one of the 'walking wounded' you may start to ask yourself questions like:
Is it realistic to expect a woman to never cheat?
Is it realistic for any LTR to last more than a few years?
Is it realistic to have to be constantly on my guard against the woman I'm dating?
Is it realistic to be able to let my vulnerabilities show every once in a while?
I'm sure the list could go on.
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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
What do you want?Luxius said:I never considered a woman as a masturbation tool, never ..
I happen to agree with this, however, by this definition then, does not commitment make you a 'slave' by default? If by the circumstances of a commitment you cannot, figuratively, say "no" to the that (or due to that) commitment, are you not then a slave?Victory Unlimited said:"ANYTHING that you can't say NO to, is your MASTER. And YOU are it's SLAVE." - Victory Unlimited
Yes, and therein is the rub...what needs to be understood is that many times "committment" is made and signed off when the emotional appeal of a course of action is at it's highest. Then feelings commonly wane, and desire and passion are often diluted due to changed circumstances.Rollo Tomassi said:I
It's my take that commitment 'should' be a function of genuine desire. Ideally, commitment should be to something one is so passionate about that the limiting of one's own future opportunities that come from that commitment is an equitable trade. This is unfortunately rarely the case for most people in any form of commitment because people, circumstance, opportunity and conditions are always in flux. A commitment that had been seen as equitable sacrifice at one time can become debilitating 5 years after depending upon circumstance.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.