"Objective signaling" reveals a man’s value and makes women instinctively pick him out from a room of ten

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Imagine there are ten men in a room. We all know some will be richer, more confident, better looking, or more socially connected. Some might have women chasing them, others have none. But here’s the thing: nobody in that room explicitly knows who’s who.

And yet… women often do. So the question is: what signals do women actually pick up on to decide which man seems “the best” or "a good pick"?

Beyond money or status, there are subtle cues, presence, for example: how a man walks, talks, and holds his space. Then there’s vitality: the natural energy, youth, and liveliness that shows in his tone, eyes, and expressions.

I used to think it was all about height. But over time, I’ve seen shorter men dominate a room, projecting more authority and power than taller ones.
There are behavioral patterns that objectively attract women, regardless of individual preference.
Not the “subjective” stuff, like body type, face shape, or personal taste, but signals that universally register as attractive or high-value.


For example, when we talk about what women we find attractive, we can separate it clearly:
Objective factors (universal): feminine energy, how she moves, how attentively she listens, low-drama attitude, emotional stability.
Subjective factors (personal taste): body shape, height, certain features, etc.

Even if a woman doesn’t fit a man’s subjective type, if she displays the objective traits, he’ll still feel drawn in.
That is happened to me, and it's happened to you too for sure.
You knowyou're drawn to thin women, but for some reason, that chubby woman there is a magnet for you. She owns the objective traits.

So it stands to reason the same logic applies in reverse. There are objective signals men can project that affect all women on a primal level, regardless of her type or preference.


What do you think those signals are (that women specifically read as objective)?
Let’s try to isolate the objective factors.
We can teach men to focus on developing what’s worth fighting for.
 

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Objective factors (universal): body shape, height, certain features, etc.
Subjective factors (personal taste): feminine energy, how she moves, how attentively she listens, low-drama attitude, emotional stability.
Let me reverse that.

Objective factors (universal): body shape, height, certain features, etc.
Subjective factors (personal taste): feminine energy, how she moves, how attentively she listens, low-drama attitude, emotional stability.

Suddenly most of this is still correct.

We can teach men to focus on developing what’s worth fighting for.
Men already have that sense, most are simply not taking action. What do you think is worth fighting for, and if so, are you taking action?
 

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Let me reverse that.

Objective factors (universal): body shape, height, certain features, etc.
Subjective factors (personal taste): feminine energy, how she moves, how attentively she listens, low-drama attitude, emotional stability.

Suddenly most of this is still correct.


Men already have that sense, most are simply not taking action. What do you think is worth fighting for, and if so, are you taking action?
I agree with the way you've reversed the objective and subjective factors there.

Can somebody explain what is meant by 'feminine energy' though? Or is it just those factors listed after the term above (eg. listens, low drama, emotionally stable)?
 

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Can somebody explain what is meant by 'feminine energy' though?
Easier to understand if you just use archetypes and stereotypes. All men have that instinct of knowing when something is feminine. Most of what we learn online and offline simply expounds on concepts, or confuses us.

Man is masculine. Woman is feminine.

Men have feminine tendencies,
but we do not say men are feminine,
because we know what feminine is,
and only men are attracted to the feminine.

Women have masculine tendencies,
but we do not say women are masculine,
because we know we are masculine
and we are not women,
because only women are attracted to the masculine.
 

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Easier to understand if you just use archetypes and stereotypes. All men have that instinct of knowing when something is feminine. Most of what we learn online and offline simply expounds on concepts, or confuses us.

Man is masculine. Woman is feminine.

Men have feminine tendencies,
but we do not say men are feminine,
because we know what feminine is,
and only men are attracted to the feminine.

Women have masculine tendencies,
but we do not say women are masculine,
because we know we are masculine
and we are not women,
because only women are attracted to the masculine.
Hmm. I'm not sure that clarifies it. Has anybody got a more user-friendly explanation of feminine energy? Perhaps with some examples to illustrate.
 

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Nah, women are extremely stupid when it comes to.making tbe right decisions and pick the right man.

If there are ten men, and lrts say the richest guy doesn't wanna flaunt his wealth, dressed normally ect they will rather go for the guy who COSPLAYS as a ladies man.

And that a BIG issue. In my culture the thug/ badboy type is sought after by women. Thus every man ( EVERY man) cos plays this character. Cop, judge, cleaner, student ; everyone acts gangster.

Sometimes a man doesn't wanna play and act. Put ten men in a room and the women will likely go for the most superficial factors: muscles, clothes, mouthpiece ect. So it becomes a pissing contest ,and the silent types will get nothing.

Most men will learn this the hard way.
 

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Hmm. I'm not sure that clarifies it. Has anybody got a more user-friendly explanation of feminine energy? Perhaps with some examples to illustrate.
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The main premise is that masculine energy is based action while feminine energy focuses in relationship building. Like building a shed would be masculine while making your home pretty would be feminine.
 
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If you read Art of Seduction you will know there are many seductive character archetypes.

It can be helpful to figure out which one you are and go from there. A true dandy would be better off focusing on the seductive characteristics of that archetype than trying to be too alpha etc. I think i am a bit of a rake, but i need to review it to be certain. Its definitely worth a yearly read along with some of Robert Greenes other content.
 

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What do you think those signals are (that women specifically read as objective)?
They are not obvious, and not something you can reverse engineer, or really describe.

They've done studies where they take ten random people and give them a task, and they automatically form into a hierarchy.

It's like everybody has a subtle, very subconscious, "who's the best person to be in charge" kind of filter.

General leadership type behavior.
 

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In my experience, in most social circles, the dog that "barks" the loudest is always the one recognized as the leader.
That's valid.

There was actually a study done where they sent two groups of people into job interviews.

One group was congruently confident, meaning they genuinely knew what they were talking about and had "strong" frames.

The second group was deliberately overtly and "fakely" confident.

The researchers were trying to prove the first group got hired at a higher rate, but the second group got hired at a hire rate.

So "faking it till you make it" is actually valid advice, if you want to get noticed by the ladies and stand out in a room of dudes.

Being the loudest, most obnoxious and sometimes rudest will do the trick.

But I would also argue that it depends on the lady as well.

Fake, over the top, aggressive confidence doesn't work on everybody. (but it did for hiring managers)
 

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It can be confident or insecure.
In my experience, in most social circles, the dog that "barks" the loudest is always the one recognized as the leader.
It's not the most confident or masculine.
The dog that barks the loudest might seem intimidating to men but might seem weak and overcompensating to high quality women.

Are we talking about high quality women or low quality women? The dog that barks the loudest may appeal to low self esteem and insecure women (because they are overcompensating and validation seeking themselves), but would appear low value to high self esteem women.

We can’t just put all women into the same box. Water seeks its own level. High self esteem men attract high self esteem women and low self esteem men attract low self esteem women.

Speaking of self esteem, there is an epidemic of low self esteem people in general, especially in the social media age.

You can even say 90% of people aren’t really worth knowing. So it may appear in reality that loud and overcompensating people are popular just due to the fact that most people have low self esteem.

I am personally after the top 10% self esteem women. And I’m confident my quiet confidence sends signals to them as obvious as the sun shining on a sunny day.

You cannot help but to attract. But what you attract depends on your self worth.

Keep asking the most important questions @jhonny9546

You are on the right path towards true knowing.
 
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The dog that barks the loudest may appeal to low self esteem and insecure women (because they are overcompensating and validation seeking themselves), but would appear low value to high self esteem women.
This is why if you don't know the difference between a confident man and an insecure one, there will be times when you will ask yourself "why do women go for the barking dog".

And I can swear to you that in Italy it happens often (70% of cases)

You can even say 90% of people aren't really worth knowing. So it may appear in reality that loud and overcompensating people are popular just due to the fact that most people have low self esteem.



I am personally after the top 10% self esteem women. And I'm confident my quiet confidence sends signals to them as obvious as the sun shining on a sunny day.
Oh you even say "90%" of them.

In fact, I am very sure you have noticed that there will be situations where you as a man act confident, but the room is full of insecure people, and you will be labeled as the "boring", "cynical", "wrong" one... but you want to keep that position. If you are not strong, you may feel inadequate, since all those people behave in a way to make you feel insecure for their own projections. But in reality, you are on the right track.

Has this ever happened to you?
In my scenario, the only way to solve is to keep your frame and leave that environment.
We cannot cure sick people who do not want to be cured.

Thanks for the kind words
 

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This is why if you don't know the difference between a confident man and an insecure one, there will be times when you will ask yourself "why do women go for the barking dog".

And I can swear to you that in Italy it happens often (70% of cases)



Oh you even say "90%" of them.

In fact, I am very sure you have noticed that there will be situations where you as a man act confident, but the room is full of insecure people, and you will be labeled as the "boring", "cynical", "wrong" one... but you want to keep that position. If you are not strong, you may feel inadequate, since all those people behave in a way to make you feel insecure for their own projections. But in reality, you are on the right track.

Has this ever happened to you?
In my scenario, the only way to solve is to keep your frame and leave that environment.
We cannot cure sick people who do not want to be cured.

Thanks for the kind words
Yeah a lot of so called “enlightened” people try to make it their goal to enlighten others even if no one asked. Everyone is where they are supposed to be evolutionary wise. And their own life experiences will either awaken them or not.

Just keep on keeping the main thing the main thing. Improve yourself daily. Dissolve your ego. Try to be more authentic as time goes by. And always do everything with love.

I’ve been involved in the game of seduction for close to 20 years. The most important lesson I’ve learned is that women are like electrons. Quantum physics has proven electrons change their movement depending on the observer.

When a needy guy looks at a woman, she will react one way. When an appreciative guy looks at that same woman, she will react completely different.

This notion that women are always static is a myth. Women are reactionary. If you are non approval seeking and have an authentic presence and genuine appreciation for the feminine essence, they will actually have no choice but to react in a way where they will desire to seduce you.

To put the onus on yourself for women’s reactions towards you is the ultimate responsibility and accountability. It implies you are the creator of your own experiences and thats a scary thing for a lot of men. They would rather blame the world.

Whether I succeed or fail with women, I always put it on myself. Because I am the constant. I am the atom, aka Adam. I am the singular being that is unaffected by whoever is observing me. And I set the tone with my vibration(internal state of being). Women (electrons) are simply a part of me and their reactions depends on my state of being. If I am needy, they run away. If I am abundant, they seduce me. It’s not even a technique. It’s just physics.
 

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What if someones life experiences are artifically crafted by bad actours?
All of our life experiences are crafted by “bad actors.” (In case you haven’t noticed) ..That’s not the main central point. The main central point is your soul. When things are going to **** (which it will most likely), how will you respond?

For me personally rock bottom was me being 1 check away from the poor house. My entire family hated me. I literally had nothing to lean on. I had no money and everyone wanted to kick me out.

I had absolutely nothing . But then I made that final decision. I said “God even if I end up homeless and have nothing, I would give it 1 LAST valiant effort from my pure will. Not just because I wanted to prove anything to you. But Just because I wanted to demonstrate my will, and heart. And even through the depths of hell. I will give it one last valiant effort.

And then everything changed.
 

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I went through hell and back. The only thing that saved me was when I said “ I’m going to try to be the best version of myself and serve others.” My ego left and died. It didnt want to be here anymore.
 

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I went through hell and back. The only thing that saved me was when I said, “I’m going to try to be the best version of myself and serve others.” My ego left and died. It didn’t want to be here anymore.
It’s always interesting to understand, and it will be a search for how to apply it to your SMV.

When you stop having an ego, stop chasing the inflated lifestyle, and do a whole series of things that lead you to an authentic lifestyle, you feel really good about yourself.

At the same time, you’ve thrown in the towel.
And yes, because the world wants you to believe that inequality or competition don’t exist, but that’s where we’re wrong, and so we must also live to gain power.

The saying "mors tua vita mea" is precisely the pinnacle of everything that constitutes life at its foundation.

So I've always believed that spirituality is an internal force, but that it's always power, social class, wealth, your persona, your ways, your social capital, your dynasty that defines value.

I've been there too; I felt good about myself, and I was spiritually connected to deeper experiences, yet I despised anything that signaled status.

And yet we can't say we live like this in a capitalist society like ours.

SMV rule, that is why we search "security", but it's actually searching the "big thing" that can give us a "sense" of security.
SMV is relative to your age and socio economic environment you play in.

Spirituality it's an inner game with yourself and will make you more stoic, resilient, less emotional reactive.

Yet, what cause the positive feedback loop it's in your SMV, and also the possibility to live a greater life.
 
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