"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Number closed, slow progress, advice needed

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Last week I saw a HB 8,5 on the dancefloor. I approached her in a natural way and we had some convo & light kino.

She looked HOT, mainly because of her E-cup :yes: Im that shallow sometimes...

She is 24 yrs old and I'm 35. No problem this far. I told her that I was through with 24/25 yrs old girls, because of their girly-problems etc. I tried to reverse the fact that I was too old.. She was smart and really classy (except..)
She asked me if I liked woman more who were a little baggy or woman who're fress, young and firm like her (and she puts her hands on her breasts.....). ok....
I was C & F and we had some laughs, later I left to my friends and number closed her.

One day later (bit fast, but who cares) I texted her:' That wasnt normal, I had a hard time sleeping, thanks a lot ;) "

We texted a bit and she asked what was on my mind: I responded (hard to translate in English): that i was reconsidering the 25 yo olds, because I'm a curious-person and I like the unknown ..
( I dont like the text that much but I didnt gave it too much thinking)

She responded 1,5 day later:" Mission completed ;)"

My thoughts: this is maybe a low IL on her part... Drop the plate? would be a shame, because of hot body.. Or am I giving up too soon.

Anyone got a good (c&F) comeback? Tips highly appreciated ?


Laterz
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I think you are on the spot. Sometimes I think that texting is better, but
there's lots of rome for interpretation.

I cant figure her latest reply out. But of the other hand, who cares?

I will give her a ring later this week..
 

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RepM said:
She is 24 yrs old and I'm 35. No problem this far. I told her that I was through with 24/25 yrs old girls, because of their girly-problems etc. I tried to reverse the fact that I was too old..
Strike one. Within the first few hours of meeting her you drew attention to your age difference. By doing so you essentially characterize yourself as the "old guy looking for some younger trim." ALWAYS let a woman figure out for herself why she wont ƒuck you, don't do it for them.

RepM said:
One day later (bit fast, but who cares) I texted her:' That wasnt normal, I had a hard time sleeping, thanks a lot ;) "
Strike two. Much too soon for contact. Who cares? She does. You further characterize yourself as "desperate, try-hard old guy looking for younger trim" By making contact within 24 hours of meeting her you telegraph the message that you have no other options to consider, nor is your attention valuable to others.

RepM said:
We texted a bit and she asked what was on my mind: I responded (hard to translate in English): that i was reconsidering the 25 yo olds, because I'm a curious-person and I like the unknown ..
Strike three, you're out. Now, within 48 hours you've again drawn attention to your age difference twice in a desperate reversal of your first position. Now you are "desperate, flip-flop, try-hard old guy looking for younger trim."

A number close doesn't mean anything these days. Even a kiss close is negligible for determining IL. This girl is a lost cause now, but in the future you need to measure your response time. This girl is an HB 8.5 and 11 years your junior, understandably you're going to be excited at the prospect of tapping her, but you MUST measure your response and act according to what you can determine from her IL.

Don't be a Mikey

Also, read this:

http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/the-difficulty-of-gaming-women-by-age-bracket/
 

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Just tell her to go out with you if that's what you want. Why play all these games with trying to come up with the perfect response and all that?

I agree with Rollo that you've made some mistakes. But I haven't seen any indication that she's written you off completely. Her interest level may or may not be too low, you'll have to figure that out by seeing if she will go out with you. If not, just forget her and move on. But nothing ventured nothing gained.

"Mission completed" sounds like she means that she has successfully renewed your interest in 25 year olds. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
 

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Thanks Rollo and Zekko for your input!

Read the article & watched the movie........... That was horror in its purest form..

Atm I spin 3 plates; 26, 27 & 30 y.o. Im not needy, but I would like to add 1 or 2 plates to my collection. And drop the less interesting one(s).

Regarding strike 1: She made a comment about my age and I reversed it. Wasn't clear in my post though.

Strike2: Because I'm fairly succesfull with ladies, I sometimes think the rules dont apply to me anymore.. True, that's a Strike! My bad.

Strike 3: She made a funny comment on my age. Tried to reply in a smart way. If you guys dont like it, she probably didnt either... My bad, strike. I let her control the frame.

I think, I'm not out yet. I made mistakes. I learned from it!

In the meantime I keep the plates spinning.

Thanks again guys!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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