"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Number close on last class of the semester

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All right.. So like the title says. Me and this girl from my class were talking and decided we should do something together sometime, so we exchanged numbers and said I'd give her a call after I visit my family for Christmas. Now I can tell she's attracted to me cause since the first day of class I would always catch her glancing over at me and she eventually started some conversation with me outside one day at school. We walked back to the dorms together and were just chatting about everyday life and joking around, then she drops this bomb on me..

"I have sort of a fake boyfriend"

Now with most girls this would seem like a ringing bell for ATTENTION ***** to me, but this girl seems sort of introverted and not the type to have such an attitude. The way I look at it is her boyfriend's probably a total AFC that wants more out of the relationship than she's willing to give.. A typical nice guy and she probably treats him as a "fake boyfriend" for this reason. It almost seems like she wants to hook up, which would be totally cool with me since I don't really have the time or patience between work and school for the constraints of an LTR.

Well anyways, me and this girl were throwing around the idea of checking out an art exhibit in the town of our school when we're both back here. Now like I said I'm not looking for a relationship, but hooking up or maybe a friends with benefits situation would be chill. Just wondering if you guys think I should go for this or if it could turn into a complete mess of a situation. Any feedback is good. Thanks dudes
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What took so long? You should've closed the first day of semester.
 
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Go for it, but get some other plates spinnin' in the meantime. And don't do what she did and tell her about your "fake girlfriends."

This one time I referred to a girl as the "girl who calls me her boyfriend." If she ever caught wind of that, she'd have been pissed like a motherf*cker.
 
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Not to rain on your parade but it sounds like you have a raging AW on your hands. The type of personality, weather intro or - extroverted, doesnt apply to AW, hence any woman posses tendencies towards becoming an AW. In other words, nice girls do it too.

Red Flags
1. Leads you on with "fake boyfriends"
2. Considers relationships more intimate than they are
3. Took you 4 months to close a phone number.
4. She left you unclear about her availability (thats why you are here)
5. You have a gut feeling that she is an AW (but refuse to believe it)

Whats gonna happen next is this: you call and she doesn't pick up, or she picks up makes plans with you and then flakes last minute, even though she is attracted to some degree.

Dont have your hopes up until she actually went out with you.


P.S. Majority of college girls are AWs- they are different, so keep that in mind.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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RSanders219 said:
All right.. So like the title says. Me and this girl from my class were talking and decided we should do something together sometime, so we exchanged numbers and said I'd give her a call after I visit my family for Christmas. Now I can tell she's attracted to me cause since the first day of class I would always catch her glancing over at me and she eventually started some conversation with me outside one day at school. We walked back to the dorms together and were just chatting about everyday life and joking around,

then she drops this bomb on me..

"I have sort of a fake boyfriend"

Don't think of this as a bomb. She uses "sort" and "fake". AKA she's just putting that excuse in there in case you are not who she thought you were and ejects. Sort of like her plan B.

Now with most girls this would seem like a ringing bell for ATTENTION ***** to me, but this girl seems sort of introverted and not the type to have such an attitude.

AKA you have the mindset that this girl is special or different from other girls. Don't put her on a pedestal as it seems like you might be doing. You don't know what any girl is capable of especially if you only have a class with them.

The way I look at it is her boyfriend's probably a total AFC that wants more out of the relationship than she's willing to give.. A typical nice guy and she probably treats him as a "fake boyfriend" for this reason.

Probably true, but you shouldn't give a fvck about a person who is "sort of" her "fake" "boyfriend."

It almost seems like she wants to hook up, which would be totally cool with me since I don't really have the time or patience between work and school for the constraints of an LTR.

Well anyways, me and this girl were throwing around the idea of checking out an art exhibit in the town of our school when we're both back here. Now like I said I'm not looking for a relationship, but hooking up or maybe a friends with benefits situation would be chill. Just wondering if you guys think I should go for this or if it could turn into a complete mess of a situation. Any feedback is good. Thanks dudes

You say you only want a hookup and no long term relationship yet in the paragraph above you basically are throwing around date ideas. Are you sure you only want a hookup or do you really want a relationship? For a hookup all you'd have to do is get her into your room or get her to a party not an art exhibit. I suppose you still CAN hook up with her after taking her to an art exhibit but it seems like a date idea not a let's fvck idea.
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Well as soon as school starts take her to the exhibit and during your alone times make sure to escalate when you feel like it. From what it sounds like she already digs you, she's expecting you to do something. Like that guy nismo has in his signature "strike while the iron's hot"
 
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If she flakes on you - let us know. I am pretty sure she will.
 
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PapiChulo said:
If she flakes on you - let us know. I am pretty sure she will.
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No offense but that's an easy bet to take on this forum
 
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honestly who knows man. i figure it can't hurt to give this girl a try, but i will report back on how things went in a few days.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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ArcBound said:
No offense but that's an easy bet to take on this forum
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oh yeah,the numbers are in my favor for sure. Its all about skepticism.


P.S. I am gonna bookmark this, once you update that you are successful we will be happy, if not, we can turn it into a learning experience.
 
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