"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Now I know of the 3 day rule but

Piers Nivens

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What if I just got a woman's number, but dont text her until Friday, thats about 5 days considering Monday just started.

Is 5 days too long? High IOIs.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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it's only too long if you just met and there's a chance of her forgetting you.
 

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There is NO chance of her forgetting me :)

In fact I can tell she probably checks her phone every now and then to see if I texted her, that kind of situation :)

I just wanted to make sure, that the 5 day wait wouldnt backfire and potentially lower her interest in a bad assumption kind kf way I.e "oh, hes the type to forget and texts 5 days later?"
 

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How old are you? How old is she? Are you of the "cell phone generation?"

I don't think waiting 3 days really matters anymore to be honest. I go with 2 days a lot or "whenever I feel like it" (somewhere between a day and a week).
 

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I'd just text after 2 days. Say something clever and cool and see if you can line something up for Friday, as opposed to texting the day of. If she's high interest, she'll reserve that time.

Then do your own thing until Friday and take her out. Keep the texting low or close to nothing, but do respond obviously.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Piers Nivens

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handle said:
How old are you? How old is she? Are you of the "cell phone generation?"

I don't think waiting two days really matters anymore to be honest. I go with 2 days a lot or "whenever I feel like it" (somewhere between a day and a week).
We are both going to hit 25 soon. I.e. we are young. And yes, we are both cell phone generation, txting type gen. So I'll take it that waiting 5 days or more is perfectly fine.

@Ebbs, true, but I really dont want to text after 2 days, not this woman anyways. I want to try something different with her.
 

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It doesn't matter how many days you go. As long as there is interest that's all you need. Waiting 3, 4, 5 days doesn't matter nor will it help you any more. If she doesn't really like you, what is waiting 5 days going to do for you?
 

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I'm gonna disagree here. The key is not how much she liked you, but how many other options she has. If she's ugly and living on a deserted island, you can wait a year. But if she's attractive and going to parties, online dating, etc. etc. then she's going to get 500 offers per week. She'll forget about you if you wait too long.
 

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Zarky said:
I'm gonna disagree here. The key is not how much she liked you, but how many other options she has. If she's ugly and living on a deserted island, you can wait a year. But if she's attractive and going to parties, online dating, etc. etc. then she's going to get 500 offers per week. She'll forget about you if you wait too long.
I disagree. It doesn't matter how many offers she gets when the offers are from ugly backwards AFC's that she has no interest in. Guys who stand out are not forgotten and she will still remember you when you are better than the rest.

I was on POF in early Jan. I didn't log in again until like 24 days later to reply to my messages. Even after all those days the chicks replied back and I got two numbers as the chick said "looks like you don't get on her a lot, here's my number". I didn't even have a convo with her and still got her number.

Even if you call her the next day it doesn't matter. Do it when you want and forget about over thinking with rules.
 
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