"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Not Understanding What Happened. (Same Story)

Kriscam23

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Whats going on people,

1st of all I would like to say thank you to this forum. It has helped me out immensely.

Well my story is like many stories. I met this girl, and got her number, blah blah. Started talking. I'm gaming her pretty well. She is very responsive. Texts me, and we speak almost everyday. She comes over my house, we're chilling, staying the night with me all that.

She always has acted very strange, would be shy around me, but i chalked that to her being strange.

But recently, on Saturday out the blue she says she doesnt want to take it to the next level because she feels like she cant show her emotions because of what happen to her in the past idk dumb ass reason. I know she likes me, I just feel like she is scared of love, because she was abused by uncles, disowned by father, etc.

I feel like the reasons she all of a sudden feels this way is because I was too truthful and caring to her which makes no sense to me at all. Also maybe her friends got in her head idk.

I am leaving her alone, until she calls me back, and I am feeling like i will have to start playing her. I didn't play games with her before at all was honest and everything, but now I feel like I will have to play her if she comes back. I mean like really dog her out. I am at the point where I can say it doesnt matter if she comes back, because i have other females I mess with (of course she didnt know that). I value myself, blah blah, im attractive, girls like me, im a cool gu at my university, i do **** when i wanna, all the lame alpha **** yall be talking about. But damn it would be good to keep her u know. (very lame statement, i just said)

What is you guys advice?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Slickster

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Being honest and genuine is great however you also need to keep her interested. In most cases this is done by playing games eg. playing hard to get, being mysterious, desired by other women, etc.

It is stupid but that is the game we are all required to play. There is tons of great info around here on all of this stuff. Check out the DJ Bible.
 

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Why are you thinking of playing games? Shes being honest with you so you be honest with her. Sometimes I think this site has made us paranoid, turned every word a woman says like a move in a chess match.

She doesn't want to take it to the next level because she feel she can't show her emotions because she is scared of love? You say "OK, that's too bad. You will have to face love sometime and I thought we connected very well. Have fun."
 

Neil Skywalker

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Kriscam23 said:
Whats going on people,

1st of all I would like to say thank you to this forum. It has helped me out immensely.

Well my story is like many stories. I met this girl, and got her number, blah blah. Started talking. I'm gaming her pretty well. She is very responsive. Texts me, and we speak almost everyday. She comes over my house, we're chilling, staying the night with me all that.

She always has acted very strange, would be shy around me, but i chalked that to her being strange.

But recently, on Saturday out the blue she says she doesnt want to take it to the next level because she feels like she cant show her emotions because of what happen to her in the past idk dumb ass reason. I know she likes me, I just feel like she is scared of love, because she was abused by uncles, disowned by father, etc.

I feel like the reasons she all of a sudden feels this way is because I was too truthful and caring to her which makes no sense to me at all. Also maybe her friends got in her head idk.

I am leaving her alone, until she calls me back, and I am feeling like i will have to start playing her. I didn't play games with her before at all was honest and everything, but now I feel like I will have to play her if she comes back. I mean like really dog her out. I am at the point where I can say it doesnt matter if she comes back, because i have other females I mess with (of course she didnt know that). I value myself, blah blah, im attractive, girls like me, im a cool gu at my university, i do **** when i wanna, all the lame alpha **** yall be talking about. But damn it would be good to keep her u know. (very lame statement, i just said)

What is you guys advice?
By staying over, do you mean you banged her?
By taking it to the next level, do you mean a serious relationship?

The answers don't actually matter much. This girl is already damaged goods. It's not your fault but I wouldn't advice to get more serious then just banging with this girl.

Neil Skywalker - Author of the book: Around the world in 80 Girls - The epic 3 year trip of a backpacking Casanova
 

vatoloco

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Kriscam23 said:
But recently, on Saturday out the blue she says she doesnt want to take it to the next level because she feels like she cant show her emotions because of what happen to her in the past idk dumb ass reason. I know she likes me, I just feel like she is scared of love, because she was abused by uncles, disowned by father, etc.
If this indeed true, my advice to you is:

"RUN FORREST!! RUUUUUNNNNNNNN~~~"
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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thevilittletroll

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i think she's full of crap. she gave a really lame excuse. the truth is probably she's no longer attracted to you and she nexted you. make your move next time and get the lay. this is one of the most common reasons girls lose attraction.
 

Kriscam23

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Yeah i definitely reading everything u guys are saying.

she just texted me today basically asking how im doing, should i respond, give her the cold shoulder? not respond at all?
 

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vatoloco said:
If this indeed true, my advice to you is:

"RUN FORREST!! RUUUUUNNNNNNNN~~~"
Agreed. If anything, the whole "abused by uncles" statement is a huge red flag, whether it's true or made up. Women who say sh!t like that (especially after just meeting them) are generally BPD's or nutcases. This is reason enough to completely ignore her @$$ and never look back.

-Scars
 

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She's not attracted to you. Sorry. Same thing happened to me, more or less. women need these excuses so they don't feel like the bad guy
 

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I can't believe it took four replies before someone pointed out that you believe this chick has been abuse and you're still considering being with her? Run for the hills, friend, this here is not your job.

No, it is not your job to fix her.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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VladPatton

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Sounds like a damaged case, based on what she said, regardless if true or not. Hell, just coming up with that phucked up excuse is a mental splinter!

I'd make like I agree with her statement while I drop her and all of a sudden become 'too busy for her'. I wouldn't even wanna keep her as a FWB due to her mental status. Who the hell knows what she has in store next.
 
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